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re: The 'lost generation' of millennials born in the 1980s may never be as rich as their paren

Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:20 am to
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:20 am to
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Millennials born in the 1980s are at risk of becoming a "lost generation" that accumulates less wealth during their lives


I'm good
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32737 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:20 am to
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Dr. Spock


Also known as a gigantic leftist.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:25 am to
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Also known as a gigantic leftist.



Honestly. If Millennials want to do some introspection regarding why things are so different for their generation.........and are willing to acknowledge that some negative exists, reading his book would be a GREAT start.

If they approached it from a "what the frick happened to us" angle and read that shite.........they might just look up at dear old Mom and Dad and ask, "how the frick did you buy in to this crap!!!!".

It's funny because I suspect that easily 90% of millenials have never heard of the dude.........but he and his sycophants were a driving force in child rearing........to the negative
Posted by RentSeekAndDestroy
Member since Mar 2018
602 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:43 am to
You leave out that most boomers also got a decent wage doing that work and that those wages in general went farther. They now hate their fellow countrymen so much that want to import slaves from the southern border to pick their crops, mow their lawns, and “do the jobs Americans won’t do”. How did that idea work out for us last time we tried it? How about instead we pay a nickel more for a pint of strawberries so our fellow Americans can get a fair wage and be willing to do those sorts of jobs?
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 9:44 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:46 am to
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To quote one hiring manager I know: " We've had to lower our expectations for the millennial generation. Expecting 40 hours a week of production is apparently unrealistic. Social media breaks are the new smoke break or get paid to poop at work break".


Your hiring manager friend is being dishonest. Tigerdroppings wouldnt exist if people generally worked 40 productive hours a week. Strict 40+ hour requirements are for sheeple.

Millennials are also more likely to forfeit unused vacation days than other groups — 24% of Millennials, 19% of Gen Xers, and 17% of Boomers forfeited time off that they’d earned. (This ought to be an especially bitter pill for Millennials to swallow given that, due to their juniority in the workforce, they earn less vacation time overall than older workers.)
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:53 am to
I’m a millennial. My parents expected good grades, forced me to pick an after school activity (sports, clubs, etc) and made me get summer jobs when I was old enough. First car was a Toyota beater with a quarter million miles.

That said, resiliency can only help so much when you graduated from college in 2009. All of your good career options evaporated overnight. We got jobs but they paid shite and we had to start paying back our loans. Also rents were rising rapidly because homes were being foreclosed at an unprecedented rate. It was a perfect storm.

Maybe I’m better for it in some ways but I lost a lot of potential wealth over the past decade. I’m doing well now though at least.

Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9551 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:55 am to
Millennials are a large region for the economic boom right now, and likely for the foreseeable. Personally, I believe we are in the midst of a 1946-1965 era all over again. We don't want to work in factories and dig ditches, but a lot of us did until we got through college making less and paying 100x for our education. With so many different state schools offering online programs, I shopped around like ole Mitt Romney said and will pay around 25k for both a bachelors and a masters from Valdosta Stare and Arkansas.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7500 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:11 am to
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Also when it comes to technology they have to be baby sat constantly. 


Holy shite, this.

Boomers LOVE to tell you all the things that they cannot do, and how I have to make accommodations for their limitations. I work in corporate development, and this is so common as to be laughable. Either figure it out, or starve. My old man is in his 70s, and he can use technology better than most Boomers I work with.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:16 am to
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I’m a millennial. My parents expected good grades, forced me to pick an after school activity (sports, clubs, etc) and made me get summer jobs when I was old enough. First car was a Toyota beater with a quarter million miles.
Dude. I get that nothing is 100%.

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That said, resiliency can only help so much when you graduated from college in 2009. All of your good career options evaporated overnight.


All of the adults who graduated in 1974 during 7.2% unemployment rate, a 12.3% inflation rate and a min wage of $8.12 in today's dollars say high.

Or, the ones who graduated in 79 or 80 with 6% unemployment, 13% inflation and interest rates of 14% .

For an adult who turned 18 in 1970, the UE rate ranged from 4.2% to 8.5% in the next 10 years while inflation ranged into the double digits 3 times and mortgage rates got into levels that people today can't even comprehend.

An adult who turned 18 in 1990 entered adulthood in a rough year. But, in the intervening 28 years, that adult has seen steadily declining mortgage rates, never seen double digit inflation and generally seen comically low inflation, and, while 1970 dude saw 9 UE rates over 6% in his next 10 years, 1990 dude saw 19 UE rates over 6% in the next 27 years. And 2009 dude? LOL. Sure. 4 straight years of rough unemployment followed by a CONSTANT decline. All while mortgage rates remained non-existent and inflation was a joke.

Look. I know each generation has its challenges, but let's not lose our minds here. I mean, you want to talk perfect storm. Go talk to 74 guy, or maybe 1980 guywho got 4 straight shite years of UE rates PLUS 3 straight horrendous inflation rates PLUS 14% mortgages!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:19 am to
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Boomers LOVE to tell you all the things that they cannot do, and how I have to make accommodations for their limitations
I'm sure this is somewhat true and I certainly see boomers who seem to want to play the "me no do tech" game at work.

That said, I gotta tell you. I'm 51 and other than the straight up tech people I've worked with, I run circles around younger employees. And it's weird to me. How can people who have had the computer for the whole lives, not know how to format a Word document to generate a memo? WTF?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:20 am to
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Either figure it out, or starve.
My prior post notwithstanding, this is absolutely the right view.

I often say that for most people of any age, "the last thing they were taught is the last thing they learned".

People fricking seem to abhor figuring shite out on their own that is perfectly within their ability to figure out.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20076 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:32 am to
Boomers lived in the age of "excess". For every peak there is a valley.

Polices that let banks and Wall Street run wild are still being felt today.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:34 am to
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Boomers lived in the age of "excess".


No one in the 70;s and early 80's would believe it was an age of excess.

Unless you're counting excessive interest rates, excessive unemployment, excessive inflation..
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:36 am to
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Polices that let banks and Wall Street run wild are still being felt today.

Dude

You live in an era where you can get a mortgage for sub 5%, inflation is basically non existent and the UE rate is 4.1%!

And, with that, you are FAR more likely to have Air Conditioning, women can get far better jobs more frequently, about 4x as many of you own washing machines and you live in FAR more square footage.

People need some fricking perspective and they need to get it ON THEIR OWN by researching stats themselves rather than from someone who cherry picked the frick out of them to present an angle.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20076 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:47 am to
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You live in an era where you can get a mortgage for sub 5%,


And why is that?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:50 am to
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And why is that?

Dude. I'm not saying there are no negatives.

But you frickers are out of your mind in your description of life in the 70s.

If you're saying you'd trade UE sub 5, mortgage rates sub 5 and inflation sub 4

for

UE greater than 8, inflation 13% and mortgage rates of 14%, people are going to justifiably look at you like you're retarded.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:52 am to
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Dude

You live in an era where you can get a mortgage for sub 5%, inflation is basically non existent and the UE rate is 4.1%!

And, with that, you are FAR more likely to have Air Conditioning, women can get far better jobs more frequently, about 4x as many of you own washing machines and you live in FAR more square footage.

People need some fricking perspective and they need to get it ON THEIR OWN by researching stats themselves rather than from someone who cherry picked the frick out of them to present an angle.
This.

The worst part of fricking millennials is their damn “woe is me” attitude.

Where we currently are as a society is fricking amazing.

No one is starving.

Nearly every human has a cell phone and flat screen television.

We all have cars.

Jobs are available. Sorry they aren’t paying you $1 million annually right out of college.

My generation, the millennials, need to shut the frick up and work.

Whiny bitches.

And if things are expensive where you are, then move.

There are cheap places to live out there.

Sorry you don’t get to live in your dream home or city. Boohoo.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:54 am to
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This.

The worst part of fricking millennials is their damn “woe is me” attitude.

Yes. The "oh my God, I was fricked by the year I graduated college" line just completely reflects that the person has made NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to look at previous years for some pretty fricking shitty years to draw as college grad years.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:57 am to
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Yes. The "oh my God, I was fricked by the year I graduated college" line just completely reflects that the person has made NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to look at previous years for some pretty fricking shitty years to draw as college grad years.
It is truly sad how mentally weak and pathetic my generation is.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:57 am to
Others might not, but I got my CPA and will own my own business one day.
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