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The line item veto...its time for a fresh look

Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98884 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:01 pm
Thinking about this in light of the bullshite omnibus.

I know that in Clinton v. N.Y. the Supemes declared it unconstitutional; however, I think the argument can be made that the passage of such omnibus bills thwarts the veto power and that because appropriations are supposed to be presented in separate bills (one for each department), the President retains the authority to veto departmental appropriations within such omnibus legislation.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:07 pm to
Sounds great in theory but you really don't want it in practice.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24795 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:07 pm to
Jug Ears had a pen and a phone ...
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42636 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:16 pm to
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Sounds great in theory but you really don't want it in practice.


Yes - yes I do.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:18 pm to
F it. Bring on the monarchy.












King TRUMP.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17188 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:05 pm to
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Jug Ears had a pen and a phone ...


Thank goodness he did NOT have use of:

Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7516 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:49 pm to
No, because there will be another Obama or FDR at some point.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34114 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:55 pm to
if Trump wants his wall, take 25 Billion out of the Defense appropriation, declaring it a national defense emergency

problem solved
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98884 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:11 pm to
Bump
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:13 pm to
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declaring it a national defense emergency



I believe all he has to do, is declare it a national security issue...
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:26 pm to
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made that the passage of such omnibus bills thwarts the veto power
It thwarts the veto power less than it does the voting power of those in congress, both the practical power and political power.

The veto may be a bigger political risk but nothing about the veto itself changes. And he can still specify why he vetoed it. A member of congress could do the same with his/her no vote, but it's harder to garner support when those who would normally do the same, may feel that the overall bill is more important or some other part of it altogether.

One person had the most power to stop it or anything in it. He chose not to use it, and the lack of specificity of the power doesn't excuse it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56374 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 1:38 am to
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The line item veto...its time for a fresh look
No. It's fricking not.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 1:40 am to
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The line item veto...its time for a fresh look



No....it's time to do budget the proper way, that's all.
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