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re: The liberal white women screaming to accept Muslims with "you are welcome" signs
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What if they don't support our values?
Who gets to determine what those values are?
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What if they're "regressive"
I don't really see how this standard could be applied in any way that would be constitutional.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:46 pm to Hawkeye95
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Also, any "backwards Southern religion" is not mowing down with trucks and automatic weapons innocent people at marathons, dance clubs, concerts, parades, cafes, army reserve buildings, military bases, airports, and office parties!
This is is just laughable, as there have loads of instances of some whites committing crimes.
Well of course there's whites committing crimes. White people are the majority here. But the mass killings taking place in Europe are perpetrated by Muslims, and have increased over recent years tremendously. Why have they increased? Because the population in Europe has increased. Do you want the same for our nation? There are parts of Germany and France that law enforcement can't even enter because it's too dangerous- the Muslims have taken over these areas.
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At some point the Koran needs to be held accountable for teaching Muslims to kill all non Mulims. We can start with not letting Muslims in. who gets to determine what religion is ok and what religion is not ok? Me? You? Do I get to say kick out LDS, due to their treatment of women?
I don't know what LDS is. When a group of murderers is hiding behind a religion, they should no longer be allowed to enter our country without the MOST EXTREME vetting. Using your religion as an excuse to murder should no longer qualify you for freedom of religion. If People rose up in the name of Catholicism to murder non Catholics, do you think Catholics could say "freedom of religion"?!
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Statistically you are wayyyyyy more likely to get killed by a christian than by a muslim.
Again, there are more Christians in America than Muslims, so yes, statistically you are more likely to be killed by a Christian. But if we keep letting the Muslims in, this statistic will change drastically--especially when it comes to mass killings. We shouldn't have to deal with this. It makes absolutely no sense to continue letting them in. It's a risk that is not worth taking, and anyone that can truly think for themselves should be able to clearly see this.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:47 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'm not even necessarily anti-Muslim, I just found the comparison with LDS ridiculous
It is ridiculous and I'm not anti muslim either.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:49 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'm not even necessarily anti-Muslim, I just found the comparison with LDS ridiculous. I come from 150 years of Mormon stock and I've never met a child bride or a polygamist.
Ridiculous? It was beyond stupid...even without the absurdity of expelling US citizens.
Some of these naive souls need to go live for a few years in some Muslim countries. Hell, just one for one year. Me personally...nine years in four different countries.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:49 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'm not even necessarily anti-Muslim, I just found the comparison with LDS ridiculous.
Well it was meant to be a bit ridiculous. I find many religions abhorrent, but I don't see people calling for them not to be admitted due to their backwards arse belief systems.
I really like mormons, and think in general they are great people. But that has been my experience with muslims too.
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I come from 150 years of Mormon stock and I've never met a child bride or a polygamist.
My friends' mother was wedded off to her husband when she was 14 or so.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:50 pm to Hawkeye95
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but I don't see people calling for them not to be admitted due to their backwards arse belief systems.
I dont care what they believe as long as the values conform to our standards.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:51 pm to toosleaux
They get to go home and pat themselves on the back for being a tolerant person that can look down their noses at those awful, knuckle dragging Trump supporters.
Bringing in untold thousands of people who's core beliefs are 180 degrees in opposition to Western culture is a small price to pay so that they can feel good about themselves.
Bringing in untold thousands of people who's core beliefs are 180 degrees in opposition to Western culture is a small price to pay so that they can feel good about themselves.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I dont care what they believe as long as the values conform to our standards.
who gets to determine those standards? You? Me?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:52 pm to Hawkeye95
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My friends' mother was wedded off to her husband when she was 14 or so
Well, they weren't in the mainstream church or they would have absolutely been excommunicated. That is a strict no-go.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:53 pm to ballscaster
It's so odd that liberals champion Muslims. They are against most of everything they stand for. Strange times we're living in.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:54 pm to Hawkeye95
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who gets to determine those standards? You? Me?
If your regressive towards women or gay people, don't come to the USA. Hows that? If you can't conform to our laws and customs, and assimilate into communities, stay away.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:56 pm to toosleaux
Mental disorder. Deep down, those women really want to be oppressed.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:57 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Some of these naive souls need to go live for a few years in some Muslim countries. Hell, just one for one year. Me personally...nine years in four different countries
Spent three years in three. But we disliked them back a little harder.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:59 pm to Hawkeye95
Your point is ludicrous.
To accept your stance, someone would have to believe that culture is something that is willfully agreed upon and concretely decided rather than being something that organically evolves over time amongst a collection of people influenced by an immeasurable number of variables and influences.
To accept your stance, someone would have to believe that culture is something that is willfully agreed upon and concretely decided rather than being something that organically evolves over time amongst a collection of people influenced by an immeasurable number of variables and influences.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If your regressive towards women or gay people, don't come to the USA. Hows that?
how about the people that are already here? Cause we have quite a few here that have regressive attitudes.
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If you can't conform to our laws and customs, and assimilate into communities, stay away.
I am fine with the laws part, but customs is a bit vague as is assimilate.
I really don't have an issue with revising our immigration rules, but I would suggest that needs to go through congress.
I do generally believe that immigrants are good for our community regardless of their origin. Especially due to the hurdles we put in place to enable them to come to the US. My experience with new immigrants is that they are usually a lot better people that the people that live here already.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:06 pm to Hawkeye95
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If your regressive towards women or gay people, don't come to the USA. Hows that?
how about the people that are already here? Cause we have quite a few here that have regressive attitudes.
Citizens? Tough shite. They have as much a right as you.
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I really don't have an issue with revising our immigration rules, but I would suggest that needs to go through congress.
I do generally believe that immigrants are good for our community regardless of their origin. Especially due to the hurdles we put in place to enable them to come to the US. My experience with new immigrants is that they are usually a lot better people that the people that live here already.
Not mine. We have awesome people here already. It's neutral. Immigrants are neither a negative or positive without considering loads of other factors.
Unfortunately a lot of the world is incapable of living under Western "liberal" ideology.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:07 pm to Hawkeye95
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quote: You mean like physically abusing girls and women? this is illegal. quote: If you believe in freedom of religion, that it is a bedrock principle of this nation, then why in God's name would you ever welcome into this country people...WHO DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE...who refuse to accept that their children have that right? The issue is who gets to determine these "values" and how are they applied. I would be 100% fine with me getting to decide it, but not so keen on others. Assuming they follow the law, I just can't see why you can say - this religion welcome, this religion not welcome - without running into a whole host of issues. Atheists are loathed in america, should we ban their admittance?
The belief of Atheists isn't to kill all people that aren't atheist. There's no book clearly stating any such thing.
The Koran clearly instructs Muslims to kill all non Muslims. So why should we let them come here?!!
Who should make the decision you ask. Our government. That's who. You want to come here, then be an atheist, a Jew, a Christian, agnostic, or Buddhist etc, but you can't be Muslim. Is that extreme? Yes. But their extremism calls for an extreme response.
The founding fathers didn't anticipate such a "religion"
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Citizens? Tough shite. They have as much a right as you.
Not a difficult concept.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unfortunately a lot of the world is incapable of living under Western "liberal" ideology.
The majority of immigrants are completely capable of it though.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:10 pm to Hawkeye95
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Um, marrying them off at 15. Multiple wives. That shite goes on with mormons.
They aren't mowing down innocent people.
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