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The Ironic Thing is Democrats Are Responsible for the Mass Deportations of Illegals

Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2578 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:32 pm
I am wholeheartedly for immigration. There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country.

But not all immigration is illegal immigration. And the democrat’s brazen “hands-off” approach to illegal aliens has now given immigration such a bad name that those who enter through legal means are going to also suffer for it.

I don’t believe the courts will uphold Trump’s attempts to change birthright citizenship, and there’s only so many illegals he can deport in the 3.5 years he has left.

But I think the country has shifted past a point to where immigration, both legal and illegal, will never be the same. And the most ironic part is it is because of Biden’s open borders.

To this day I am confounded as to why he did nothing to curb illegal immigration at the southern border for 3 years, and I don’t know if we ever got an answer from him.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12468 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:40 pm to
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I am wholeheartedly for immigration. There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country.


You only have to go back to 1991 and the population of the US was about 250 million. Now we are about at 350 million. The idea that we have to keep increasing our population like this to drive GDP growth is crazy. It’s unsustainable. GDP growth doesn’t count for much if it requires you to commit national and cultural suicide.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5609 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:44 pm to
Well, for starters he doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
9253 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:48 pm to
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There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country


Then you’re fricking stupid and lazy without any ability to think for yourself.

Just try for one or two days and it’ll make sense to you, think about it, and if it still doesn’t make sense then you have confirmed yourself as being a stupid motherfricker.

At that point just accept it
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18133 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:48 pm to
It was all about bringing illegals, gifting them money, making them voters and buying elections and power for Democrats.

If Trump can’t finish it maybe Vance can.
Posted by Columbus
Member since Jan 2021
171 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:51 pm to
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I am wholeheartedly for immigration. There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country.
This logic destroyed Britain and France. Sacrifice the national culture at the altar of perpetual growth.
Posted by TXBQAG02
Member since Nov 2024
100 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:55 pm to
Instead of importing workers through immigration (legal or illegal), why don’t we try not killing babies?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170324 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:56 pm to
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. The idea that we have to keep increasing our population like this to drive GDP growth is crazy.

Our economy is largely driven by domestic demand. If population growth is stagnant then it will create demand destruction and slow growth.

That doesn't mean we need to bring in anyone and everyone but we do in fact need to increase population to have any long term economic growth. If we had much greater exports you might have a point.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50681 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:59 pm to
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There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country.


Illegals are a net loss to the economy with the CBO calculating that the net loss over ten years is on the order of $1.5 Trillion. Once AI takes over all the jobs that current American citizens have, the US citizens will be working those trade jobs, restaurant jobs, picking cotton jobs in order to collect their government stipend.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29510 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:03 pm to
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Well, for starters he doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about


Yep and yikes...
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170324 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:05 pm to
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Illegals are a net loss to the economy with the CBO calculating that the net loss over ten years is on the order of $1.5 Trillion. Once AI takes over all the jobs that current American citizens have, the US citizens will be working those trade jobs, restaurant jobs, picking cotton jobs in order to collect their government stipend

And we'll still have reduced domestic demand.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29510 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:08 pm to
Socialism/ communism sucks.


This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:11 pm
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2578 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:14 pm to
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Illegals are a net loss to the economy with the CBO calculating that the net loss over ten years is on the order of $1.5 Trillion
That’s illegal immigration. I haven’t seen this statistic but I’m inclined to agree with you.

We still need legal immigration, however. That’s the point I’m making.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170324 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:19 pm to
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We still need legal immigration, however. That’s the point I’m making.

Correct
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25308 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:24 pm to
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There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country.


Stopped reading here.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11060 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:27 pm to
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There is not a rational economist alive who will tell you America can sustain our current GDP per capita without a steady stream of immigrants coming into the country.

This is one big fallacy. America doesn’t need any immigrants unless the few let in are the best and brightest.

Americans just need to frick with a full intent to make more humans and stop aborting them.

The concept of a nuclear family with values needs to get restored.

There is no moral high ground for what the Biden administration did in letting in 25 million immigrants during and after a pandemic.

The Dems intent was to flood the country with illegals and register them to vote to steal a presidential election and congressional seats to gain absolute power over the masses.

The US has been committing cultural suicide. It should always be America first. If you can’t assimilate, you don’t need to be allowed in.

Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18639 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:30 pm to
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To this day I am confounded as to why he did nothing to curb illegal immigration at the southern border for 3 years, and I don’t know if we ever got an answer from him.

More political representation as the census counted these people. Also an unlimited supply of benefits-dependent future voters to shift the balance of power to Democrats.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16505 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:30 am to
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To this day I am confounded as to why he did nothing to curb illegal immigration at the southern border for 3 years, and I don’t know if we ever got an answer from him.


Dude you're confounded cause you cant think rationally
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
909 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:50 am to
The Democrats shift on immigration from the Obama years is interesting but you're not going to get a decent discussion here from folks who desire to see 60 yr old grandmothers to be sent to Alligator Alley.

In 2019 during the primaries.. almost every Dem candidate supported decriminalizing illegal border crossings... except Biden. Even Bernie who said "open borders were a Koch brothers proposal" went more liberal.

People forget this because the Dems Resistance during the 1st Trump admin, the Dem progressives had tons of support with rallying against the Muslim ban, immigration crackdowns, Mexican wall

Biden, as Obamas VP, was forced to defend Obamas "harsh" deportation policy against the Dem progressives who wanted to go more left. He even accused the other Candidates of wanting an Open Border lol

But once in office, Biden decided to go with the progressives policy on the border instead of the one he was elected on.

And yes like you've said, it happened at the worst time because public polling on immigration shifted towards Trumps hard line immigration policy, unlike his first term. He has an absolute mandate on it and Dems don't realize it because they still think it's 2018


This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 5:58 am
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2578 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 8:09 am to
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the Dem progressives had tons of support with rallying against the Muslim ban, immigration crackdowns, Mexican wall
Regarding the Muslim ban, SCOTUS has reeled-in judicial injunctions that would immediately halt such things.

However what if the next Dem president declares another student loan moratorium/forgiveness? A Republican judge wouldn’t be able to stop it.

It’s a double edged sword.
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