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ThinePreparedAni
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The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Bumped the thread in light of more recent mainstream reporting on the Q movement

Background:



NY Times

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What Is QAnon: Explaining the Internet Conspiracy Theory That Showed Up at a Trump Rally

Do you remember Pizzagate? It’s a little like that: a web of baseless conspiracy theories. And its supporters were highly visible at an event for the president in Florida.


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Here is the short version: Q claims to be a government insider exposing an entrenched, international bureaucracy that is secretly plotting all sorts of nefarious schemes against the Trump administration and its supporters. The character uses lingo that implies that he or she has a military or intelligence background.

It’s a stew of various, but connecting, conspiracy theories that generally hold Mr. Trump as a conquistador battling a cabal of anti-American saboteurs who have taken over government, industry, media and various other institutions of public life in a plan to … well, the overarching goals of the nefarious actors are not clear.





The Intercept

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TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WEIGHING PLANS FOR PRIVATE SPIES TO COUNTER “DEEP STATE” ENEMIES

Matthew Cole, Jeremy Scahill
December 4 2017, 9:24 p.m.



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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency.

The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration’s political agenda.

“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”


Hmmm...

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The proposals would utilize an army of spies with no official cover in several countries deemed “denied areas” for current American intelligence personnel, including North Korea and Iran. The White House has also considered creating a new global rendition unit meant to capture terrorist suspects around the world, as well as a propaganda campaign in the Middle East and Europe to combat Islamic extremism and Iran.


Hmmm...

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“[Maguire] said there were people inside the CIA who joined in the previous eight years [under Obama] and inside the government, and they were failing to give the president the intelligence he needed,” said a person who was pitched by Maguire and other Amyntor personnel. To support his claim, Maguire told at least two people that National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, in coordination with a top official at the National Security Agency, authorized surveillance of Steven Bannon and Trump family members, including Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump. Adding to these unsubstantiated claims, Maguire told the potential donors he also had evidence McMaster used a burner phone to send information gathered through the surveillance to a facility in Cyprus owned by George Soros.


Lot of synchronicities from this article showing up lately

Reflected in "unlikely" events coming to fruition...
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And they know this how? Oh yeah unnamed sauces


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Trump just needs to have a mass firing of people.

These people serve at the pleasure of the president. There is no excuse for them to still be employed.


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unsubstantiated claims


This entire article in 2 words.


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I forgot about this article. Wow.


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ThinePreparedAni
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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Was posted in another thread.


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Eric Prince?


gq

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Have You Heard the One About the Clinton-Soros Plot to Overthrow Trump?


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Across Washington, the sort of theories that once elicited laughs are now finding powerful proponents. Why are Erik Prince and other self-proclaimed “nationalists” in Trump’s orbit so concerned with liberal billionaire George Soros?



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On Monday, The Intercept reported that along with an associate, Prince—the Blackwater founder and all-around international man of intrigue—has been pitching Donald Trump’s White House and the president’s allies on the creation of a private network of spies that would operate outside the normal structure of the CIA. Prince has denied the Intercept story, though CNN, citing an unnamed official, confirmed its broad outlines on Tuesday.

But there’s more. The Intercept reported that Prince’s partner in the venture, a former CIA officer, has been making some mighty wild claims: That White House national-security adviser H.R. McMaster has ordered surveillance of Trump’s family and of Steve Bannon, and that McMaster has “used a burner phone to send information gathered through the surveillance to a facility in Cyprus owned by George Soros.”


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Prince himself recently endorsed a separate jaw-dropping theory about Soros: He suspects the magnate of trying to orchestrate an effort to sabotage the Trump administration through a so-called “Purple Revolution.” This campaign of resistance was purported to have begun in the moments right after the election, spurred along—supposedly—by Hillary Clinton and her husband, who each wore purple on stage as Clinton offered her concession speech in November 2016.

Prince’s suspicions about a “Purple Revolution” offer a window into his worldview and those of his fellow travelers, self-proclaimed upstart “nationalists” who are waging something of a cloak-and-dagger fight to wrest control of U.S. intelligence, national security, and foreign-policy interests from the establishment players they call “globalists.” In the view of these nationalists, they are up against a well-coordinated and ruthless campaign by many of the country’s most powerful people to undo, and if necessary overthrow, Trump’s government. Such threats to democracy, they posit, could justify extreme measures in response.


Quite interesting


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But when I pressed him for more information, Prince, who is fond of citing the Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, invoked Sun Tzu instead, responding cryptically, “Know your enemy.” Then he quickly corrected himself, amending “enemy” to “opponent.”



Just a reminder...

NY Times

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Condé Nast Will Be Anchor of 1 World Trade Center
By CHARLES V. BAGLI MAY 17, 2011





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Nast(y) folks...
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ThinePreparedAni
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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Transcript of Erik Prince testimony to Congress

Go to pages 97 through 100...

Discusses Guccifer, NYPD, Weiner laptop, and Clinton

Note that this is only portion of his testimony with redactions

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ThinePreparedAni
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Bumped for night shift review/scrutiny...


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Two sets of Plutocrats fighting for total control, we (the common people) lose anyway.


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ThinePreparedAni
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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Old info, but linked for context to content above:

Youtube

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Erik Prince reveals what in the Weiner Laptop (made with Spreaker)

Former CEO of Blackwater and Navy Seal talks about the Weiner Laptop and what was found on if and why the NYPD haven't charged anyone, this audio has to be posted everywhere


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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Alex Jones being "censored" and Q gaining "mainstream presence" at the same time is not coincidental. Clever though.. convincing the sheep that they are foxes..

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Wtodd
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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
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George Soros

Why don't we send Hungary $10M in aid and in return they can bump this fricktard off?

quote:

Mike Pompeo

Anyone else think he's going to either be Mike Pence's VP pick OR the Rep Prez candidate if MP doesn't run?


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Pompeo
I’m a huge fan of the guy assuming he’s not an establishment black hat, he’s my pick to take the MAGA torch in 2024


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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Trump surrounds himself with Blackwater, John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, etc., and people continue to believe he's anti-establishment.

It is mind-boggling.


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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
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Trump just needs to have a mass firing of people.

These people serve at the pleasure of the president. There is no excuse for them to still be employed.


This is incorrect

The "deep state" are career civil service employees who can not be fired by the President (except under a few very rare cases such as when Reagan fired air traffic controllers who refused an order to return to work)



bmy
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The "deep state" are career civil service employees who can not be fired by the President (except under a few very rare cases such as when Reagan fired air traffic controllers who refused an order to return to work)


What about the ones he hired?


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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
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a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency.
So then why did Trump sign the bill EXPANDING government surveillance on the American people?

LINK

LINK


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ThinePreparedAni
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re: The Intercept: Trump/Deep State battle in perspective (update Deep State/current events)
Bumped with Weiner update (reference with above)

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/08/22/despite_comey_assurance_vast_bulk_of_weiner_laptop_emails_never_examined.html

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Despite Comey Assurances, Vast Bulk of Weiner Laptop Emails Were Never Examined
Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations - August 23, 2018


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When then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was closing the Hillary Clinton email investigation for a second time just days before the 2016 election, he certified to Congress that his agency had “reviewed all of the communications” discovered on a personal laptop used by Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

At the time, many wondered how investigators managed over the course of one week to read the “hundreds of thousands” of emails residing on the machine, which had been a focus of a sex-crimes investigation of Weiner, a former Congressman.

Comey later told Congress that “thanks to the wizardry of our technology,” the FBI was able to eliminate the vast majority of messages as “duplicates” of emails they’d previously seen. Tireless agents, he claimed, then worked “night after night after night” to scrutinize the remaining material.

But virtually none of his account was true, a growing body of evidence reveals.

In fact, a technical glitch prevented FBI technicians from accurately comparing the new emails with the old emails. Only 3,077 of the 694,000 emails were directly reviewed for classified or incriminating information. Three FBI officials completed that work in a single 12-hour spurt the day before Comey again cleared Clinton of criminal charges.






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One career FBI special agent involved in the case complained to New York colleagues that officials in Washington tried to “bury" the new trove of evidence, which he believed contained the full archive of Clinton's emails — including long-sought missing messages from her first months at the State Department.


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Comey later told Congress that “thanks to the wizardry of our technology,” the FBI was able to eliminate the vast majority of messages as “duplicates” of emails they’d previously seen. Tireless agents, he claimed, then worked “night after night after night” to scrutinize the remaining material.

But virtually none of his account was true, a growing body of evidence reveals.

In fact, a technical glitch prevented FBI technicians from accurately comparing the new emails with the old emails. Only 3,077 of the 694,000 emails were directly reviewed for classified or incriminating information. Three FBI officials completed that work in a single 12-hour spurt the day before Comey again cleared Clinton of criminal charges


Congress needs to exercise their power and send in the fellas to pick him up...

It's obvious he lied under oath...


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