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re: The fact that Dems are going batshit crazy tells me Trump did the right thing with ED

Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:00 pm to
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You guys tore into the obama administration for its use of EOs and the way in which obamacare was implemented Now that the shoe is on the other foot, there are no rules Pure hypocrisy.

Declaring a national emergency isn’t an EO.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:01 pm to
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Its NOT an emergency. FACT.


Lie. Shut the frick up.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:01 pm to
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It exceeds the Executive’s constitutional authority. There is no “emergency”.


Congress specifically delegated this authority to the executive and gave him the sole discretion to determine emergencies. Next.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:02 pm to
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It exceeds the Executive’s constitutional authority. There is no “emergency”.


Except trump is using a power specifically delegated by congress. You want to try again?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:03 pm to
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The facts surrounding the border issue do not rise to the same level as an immediate public health emergency, for starters. ETA: and as suggested above, Congress has expressed its opposition in this instance.


None of which is relevant. The President has sole discretion. Congress delegated that discretion with the NEA. They also limited this discretion to 123 enumerated statutes that specifically invoke the NEA. Next.

Boosie has the right argument. Does a border wall fit as military construction. If I recall correctly there may be a code section out there specifically saying barrier walls are not. But I’m not poilsitive. That’s what y’all should concentrate on. This other stuff won’t fly.
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47603 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:41 pm to
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The fact that Dems are going bat shite crazy tells me Trump did the right thing


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48287 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:54 pm to
that’s a good one for the left. I chuckled.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25311 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

You guys tore into the obama administration for its use of EOs and the way in which obamacare was implemented

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, there are no rules Pure hypocrisy
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1) The real problem is the Dems wouldn't give essentially pocket change ($5B) to Trump to build a needed border wall.

2) I am shocked that we haven't had a wall for 250 years. A country is defined by its borders.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:12 pm to
Votes is power and power is money. I will give them barely credit enough to assume they realize they are losing more and more ground in the electoral college, thus import the masses then pull out all the stops to allow them to vote. Turn red to purple and purple to blue with an organized effort to disperse new votes where needed. Germans
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260317 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:19 pm to
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When the next Dem POTUS signs past a GOP-led congress, you whack jobs better keep quiet.



Absolutely. It's obvious these "wall" supporters are authoritarian
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105404 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:20 pm to
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political pandering and sabotaging the checks and balances


That is rich

This is how we got Obama for 8 years and really the only thing the Dem party uses to elect anyone.

You’re a good little sheep
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260317 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:22 pm to
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Declaring a national emergency isn’t an EO.


It's worse.

The precedent has been set, we will have all kinds of "emergencies" now.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 6:30 pm to
I love that magnificent Orange Bastard!!

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:00 pm to
Hopefully then Repubs will pull their collective heads out of asses and take notes on how the Dems are going to obstruct this upcoming process. If the S Ct comes down on the side of Trump then yes there going to be payback for the sake of payback when a Dem gets back to the WH. However when it comes to a potential NE re: gun rights there would be a much stricter constitutional standard due to Bill of Rights being directly involved. As for skme sort of environmental NE....surely the little guy who has so far stuck with Dems will have discovered the fact tht said little guy will be injured the most from unaffordable fuel costs. Sounds good in my head anyway.
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