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The early morning hours of November 4th was the most depressing thing I’ve ever seen

Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Tigers1984
Slidell
Member since Sep 2020
1688 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:16 pm
Never forget Trump was winning big in every swing state, they stopped the election to see how many votes they needed, then between 3 and 4 AM started dumping ballots at nearly 100% for one candidate. Some states kept counting for more than a week until they got the results they wanted.

It’s not about Trump. Whether you think he was a good President or not, the American people didn’t have a choice in the matter. We are no different than a shitty 3rd world dictatorship

I hope the soy boys are right and Biden is all he’s cracked up to be.... but I doubt it. Elections have consequences, especially stolen elections.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:17 pm to
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The early morning hours of November 4th was the most depressing thing I’ve ever seen

Yet...
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146848 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:18 pm to
It really was depressing. Blago even said it was obvious.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:19 pm to
Look, I am fine with making accomodations for people to vote who can't make it on election day.

What is fishy to me is that there are huge racial differences between who votes on eday and who uses other means.

Why, for example, are mail-in-ballots much much much more likely to be a black voter than an election day vote?

Why wouldn't you expect racial breakdowns to be the same on eday as they are in mail in?

Why are blacks and young people more likely be vote provisionally or absentee?

This stuff is weird to me.

I am NOT saying blacks commit fraud.

What I am asking is WHY black people are so into voting by mail.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18212 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:19 pm to
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It’s not about Trump.


The uniparty couldnt control him. They took him out.

Its absolutely about trump
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13253 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:20 pm to
The most depressing thing you’ve seen so far.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:20 pm to
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they stopped the election to see how many votes they needed, then between 3 and 4 AM started dumping ballots at nearly 100% for one candidate


As a fellow disappointed Trump voter, this claim has been as thoroughly debunked as any false claim in the history of American politics. It's just not true and any discussion about the flaws in our voting system needs to begin by acknowledging this, because if we don't all legitimate grievances can be thrown out under the label of conspiracy theory.

The election was lost on the basis of mail in ballot laws in certain states which effectively allowed for legal ballot harvesting from populations which skew heavily democrat. Millions of people who otherwise would never vote did so on the basis of convenience, and the vast majority of these people voted for Joe Biden which is what we would expect given the breakdown of voters who participated in the process this way.
Posted by Guardian
Member since Jan 2021
32 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:21 pm to
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Never forget Trump was winning big in every swing state, they stopped the election to see how many votes they needed, then between 3 and 4 AM started dumping ballots at nearly 100% for one candidate. 
cannot believe yall are still doing this. Its absolute fiction. It did not happen.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:22 pm to
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Guardian



What Biden handout arouses you?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146848 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:22 pm to
Some States have 3 weeks straight of voting this has to stop. It won't because Turtle doesn't GAF. And now we are all stuck with him.

Can he be recalled like Utah tried to do with Romney?
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
5762 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:23 pm to
Swing states violated their own election laws by creating their own laws without proper legislation...
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 6:26 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:24 pm to
Watched it all night. I was calling bs long before trump ever said anything
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:25 pm to
cannot believe yall are still doing this. Its absolute fiction. It did not happen

I watched it real time
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:27 pm to
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Why, for example, are mail-in-ballots much much much more likely to be a black voter than an election day vote?


The American black demographic, purely statistically speaking, is less actively engaged in elections, more likely to experience substantial baseline transportation limitations, less likely to be able to have time away from work to vote given the distribution of occupations and more likely to be zoned farther from a polling place. The average white voter in America has to travel 0.39 miles further to vote than a black voter, which may not seem like much until you consider that a statistically relevant number of black Americans have to walk somewhere to vote.

You add everything up and you get a demographic that is going to disproportionately take advantage of the convenience (and frankly, active and easy reminder) to vote by mail. In many cases it's as simple as "Oh hey, now I can just fill this out and mail it in, I guess I'll vote this year".
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Tigers1984
Slidell
Member since Sep 2020
1688 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:31 pm to
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this claim has been as thoroughly debunked as any false claim in the history of American politics. It's just not true

I watched it happen in real time. The ratios Biden was getting were statistically impossible... also why come to a dead stop in the middle of an election?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:32 pm to
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The ratios Biden was getting were statistically impossible


They weren't

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also why come to a dead stop in the middle of an election?


They didn't
Posted by Barroom
Georgia
Member since Jan 2021
372 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:34 pm to
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The early morning hours of November 4th was the most depressing thing I’ve ever seen



I agree that it was depressing but the next 4 years is going to make it look like good times. Our country is fricked and so are we
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58027 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:35 pm to
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Never forget Trump was winning big in every swing state, they stopped the election to see how many votes they needed, then between 3 and 4 AM started dumping ballots at nearly 100% for one candidate. Some states kept counting for more than a week until they got the results they wanted.



Yep. The Dems always count last and longest
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:39 pm to
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I watched it real time


You watched bulk tallies of mail in votes from heavily democratic areas being added to the count. The EXACT SAME THING has happened in prior elections, the only difference this year is that mail in voting was more heavily utilized to the point where these vote totals actually shifted the election because so many democratic voters participated in this way.

Numerous political commentators from many of these swing states, on the left and right, were telling you this would happen for MONTHS leading up to the election. Anyone who understands the vote counting process in some of these states and how prevalent mail in voting would be this year saw it coming.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:42 pm to
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The Dems always count last and longest


The heaviest democrat areas are the largest population centers with the highest numbers of votes to count and generally some of the worst processes in place for doing so in a timely manner.

It's also important to remember that, in some cases, this was due to REPUBLICAN legislation in these states requiring mail in votes to only be counted starting on election day, and in some cases not until the in person polls close.
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