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re: The definitive video showing Good's vehicle striking the agent

Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:41 pm to
agreed I'll start a new page


SHOOT THE TIRES!!!!
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 4:42 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:42 pm to
Lol
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:42 pm to
Shoot the tires!

Drive honey drive!!


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:44 pm to
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Shoot the tires! Drive honey drive!!


I posted receipts and asked him to post his. He gone.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:44 pm to
when she said drive honey drive did she INTEND for her bat shite crazy lezzie lover to throw the car in gear and hit the ICE officer or did she just INTEND to have her drive baby drive. I think we need to get to the heart of the intention here.

This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:46 pm to
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I just dont' think
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I just dont' think
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I just dont' think
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I just dont' think
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I just dont' think
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:47 pm to
SWEEP THE LEG !!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41737 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:47 pm to
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1. If her intention was to run over him, why didn't she do it when he TWICE walked directly in front of the vehicle with no chance to escape? Why would she have waited to run him down?


I don’t think she was trying to do that, but it doesn’t matter what her intention was, and she can’t tell us what it was.

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2. Why did she initially BACK UP before trying to drive away? Could it be that she was intentionally trying to AVOID hitting him? What other reason do you think there could be for her backing up before driving away?


To flee?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41737 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:01 pm to
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They, in fact, ESCALATED the situation by rushing her car and trying to pull her out.


How else are you supposed to detain a person without walking towards them?

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One told her to drive away


She escalated by refusing to do so. This is when they walked towards her car, and told her to get out.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90609 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:03 pm to
Irrelevant ice fella doesn't have time to contimplate her idiocy.

It's truly why clowns play what if

Or ask irrelevant questions.

At the end of the day if you are determining I want to go home to my family or I need to figure out her intentions.

She get three to the face and neck
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:12 pm to
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It is my understanding that part of their job is to DE-ESCALATE the situation. They, in fact, ESCALATED the situation by rushing her car and trying to pull her out. The two officers complicated the situation by giving her conflicting orders. One told her to drive away while the other grabbed her door handle to yank her out.



That’s non-responsive to my question. You’re big on people answering your questions right? I will restate mine:

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What law of the United States did the officer violate?

Federal Regulations on Force and Escalation

Minimum Force Required: Under 8 CFR § 287.8, immigration officers are legally required to use the "minimum non-deadly force necessary".
Conditional Escalation: Agents are only permitted to escalate to higher levels of force when it is "objectively reasonable" based on the actions or apparent intentions of the suspect.
De-escalation Mandate: Current ICE Use of Force policies (updated as of 2023 and continuing through 2026) instruct officers to prioritize de-escalation techniques and only use force when no "safe and feasible alternative" is available.

Agents must follow federal regulations requiring force to be "objectively reasonable" under the Fourth Amendment.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, generally requiring a warrant based on probable cause
. It ensures security in persons, houses, papers, and effects, applying to government actions, not private parties. Warrants must describe the place and items to be searched/seized

Key Legal and Policy Constraints on ICE Escalation

Minimum Necessary Force: DHS policy stipulates that agents must use the minimum, non-deadly force needed to accomplish their mission, escalating only when warranted.
Objectively Reasonable Standard: The Supreme Court mandates that all law enforcement force—deadly or not—must meet an "objective reasonableness" standard, meaning actions must be justified by the situation.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90609 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:13 pm to
Wall of text!

Now decide in less than two seconds.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:14 pm to
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2. Why did she initially BACK UP before trying to drive away? Could it be that she was intentionally trying to AVOID hitting him? What other reason do you think there could be for her backing up before driving away?



To flee?

Agree. To flee, not to run over the officer.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:16 pm to
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They, in fact, ESCALATED the situation by rushing her car and trying to pull her out.



How else are you supposed to detain a person without walking towards them?
By not grabbing the door handle to yank them out of the car.
Their job is to deescalate, not escalate.
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She escalated by refusing to do so. This is when they walked towards her car, and told her to get out.
Wrong. They were shouting conflicting instructions as they approached the vehicle. Not before.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:16 pm to
Your assumption is well .....

Maybe she was backing up to get an acceleration to kill him.

Naw that can't be
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:17 pm to
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Now decide in less than two seconds.
Are you saying they sent these armed officers out on the street with no training? Was this his first day on the job?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25286 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:17 pm to
She went there, and found out!

C'mon people, these paid instigators are BAD for the country, period.

She put her life, and the officers life, in danger, and she lost.....thats the way I see it.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:18 pm to
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Maybe she was backing up to get an acceleration to kill him.

I'm no expert on physics, but I don't think you back up when you're trying to accelerate forward. I could be wrong.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90609 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:18 pm to
Lol doesn't matter two days 25 years.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41737 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Agree. To flee, not to run over the officer.
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2. Agree or not, it’s irrelevant either way.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 5:20 pm
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