re: The Deep State and a potential Breakaway Civilization (“Nazis” and “Divide and Conquer”)

Some things are mysteries. Some things are the half baked imagination of people who refuse to acknowledge the chaos of the world and want a structured explanation.

I had to step back a bit yd

Part of the concern is that much of my supporting info is embedded in many threads over the last few years. The intent was to document this info in time.

Those who follow the threads I post can see the trend. Those that drive by see only what the want to see/perceive.

I refelected on pieces from mainstream media source I could post. The next few posts are those.

From:

wired.com
the CEO of a quantum comupting company
Michigan State research

Decide for yourself

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Deep Prasad, the CEO of ReactiveQ, a multimillion dollar quantum computing tech start-up based out of Toronto, shares Lampkin’s sentiments.

“As technologists we seek to master science and engineering in such a way that all of humanity benefits from it," he told Motherboard. “In front of our eyes are technologies underlying these UFOs that are far beyond our understanding and capabilities of recreating ... if we pay close attention and reverse these technologies to bring to the masses, we will see a world with interstellar travel at our fingertips."

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Deep published a very interesting opinion piece (interesting name and company name...)
I feel (and have felt this way for some time) the same way as the author (one day I clarify)

https://medium.com/@deep_1645/what-kind-of-life-do-you-want-to-live-4978cea71144

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What kind of life do you want to live?
Deep Prasad Deep Prasad Follow
Jun 29 · 14 min read

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Growing up no one ever tells you everything there is to know about the world. Why would they? It would be an impossible task to take on for both the teacher and the student. Yet as we grow up we are constantly given information that is at best 2nd-hand, and it is subtly implied as indisputable fact. Sometimes if you argue enough with the teacher, they might make it explicit how indisputable the fact is by shutting you up through various methods. Even if you successfully prove them wrong you will have at best enlightened a small crowd of minds around you. Yet Humanity’s collective pool of (incorrect) knowledge would remain largely unchanged regarding the fact being debated at hand. The purpose of this article is not to convince anyone of anything. If it is meant to be, it will play its small part in igniting the public subconsciousness to go out and ask the hard questions that need to be asked about the current world around them. If we want to have any dignity left as a society that prides itself with the status of an “intelligent, thinking species” then we should be jumping onto the pursuit for truth whenever new, potentially game-changing information comes our way. In my definition, game-changing information means information that could lead to the next definitive steps in Human evolution. Examples from history include the Golden Ages of Greece, Iran and the Renaissance in Europe over 400 years ago.

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Over years of speaking to some of the world’s experts and leading companies on these topics as well as running a “deep tech” company, I’d like to think I’ve built an intuition for walking the fine line between the art of the possible and the art of the impossible. I’m constantly checking my numbers, claims, facts and their sources before making my company’s next move. My sci-fi ambition drives the direction but the *Real World* and its limitations firmly ground our goals in Reality. We have to. We have no other choice. It would be insanity for us to make our Engineering decisions based on speculating what technology might be built or discovered someday. Imagine for a second I worked at Tesla as an engineer and refused to work on the current model, a model constrained by Earth’s resources and the imagination of Tesla’s brightest talent. Imagine that I insisted instead on waiting for the magic metal Vibranium to be discovered and given to me and I refused to even acknowledge that the current model was our best one. That is no strategy and such an engineer would soon find themselves working elsewhere, probably at a sci-fi publication rather than in a hard Engineering environment. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but such a mentality is inexcusable for someone who actually does need to build something useful for the world at some point. Following? Good. Now you’re where I am, sort of. I see a world full of Engineers waiting for Vibranium to be dropped into their hands. Oddly enough, I see that there really does exist a very advanced technology that behaves like Vibranium but whoever owns it isn’t willing to share or reveal themselves. To make matters worse, the owner of said technology not only has Vibranium, they also seem to have some sort of impossible fuel source unknown to mankind and abilities to move through Reality in ways that were again, previously thought impossible. I am not describing science fiction here, this is real life. We are really living this scenario whether you like it or not. There is really someone out there who has attained the epitome of Science and Engineering in ways that break some of our most precious, well preserved laws of Physics. They have somehow overcome Engineering challenges that are hilariously out of scope for any Engineer, Technology Company, Government Organization or Private Organization in the public domain. I don’t care if you’re Google, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, SpaceX or Apple. You cannot and will not be able to replicate the observed technologies that the US Navy is constantly encountering around the world, as reported in virtually every mainstream media outlet these past few weeks. The very same flying objects invading their airspace is able to run circles around their best jets and pilots and leave without a chance of getting caught or identifying themselves. At a glance, a rational human might wonder, “Well who has the gonads to pull that off in US Military Air Space repeatedly without worrying about starting a war if they’re not American, or risk killing their own people if they are American? Most importantly, who can pull this level of technology off and stay hidden for all of Human History?” To me, the technology we are seeing is potentially hundreds of years ahead of us. I do not say this lightly. In fact, thanks to a fantastic journalist named Tyler Rogoway I came to realize how hilariously far behind even the greatest superpowers like the US is in catching up to the level of technology the Navy is running into. I say hilarious but it’s really not, in fact what I came to learn through a series of investigations done on the subject of what these objects are capable of and how no one knows what they are, has disturbed me to no end.

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The patent application was initially rejected by the patent examiner under the grounds that one of the requirements was generating a magnetic field on the order of 10? Teslas, which as Tyler Rogoway correctly states is roughly the same strength as Magnetars. Such a magnetic field that this patent design calls for is hundreds of millions of times stronger than any man-made magnet, and quadrillions of times more powerful than the field surrounding Earth. Another fun fact about magnetars, they are 3 times heavier than the Sun while being only 10km in radius on average, which means a teaspoon of the stuff would weigh 100 million tons. Good luck recreating that in a tiny 50 foot long vehicle in our atmosphere without falling and tearing a hole through Planet Earth!

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The reason why the patent ended up getting accepted was because the Naval Aviation Enterprise CTO Dr. James Sheehy personally vouched that the Star Wars Craft design was grounded in Reality. His exact quote includes the following: “China is already investing significantly in this area” and “[I] would prefer we [the U.S.] hold the patent as opposed to paying forever more to use this revolutionary technology” as he asserted “this will become a reality.” Given that I, a random 23-Year-Old on the internet could find glaring Scientific and Engineering flaws in their design, how is it possible that the patent examiner who had already rejected the Star Wars patent once, change his mind just because the CTO basically asked him to? They mention preliminary lab results to justify why the patent examiner should change their mind but those results are on energy scales tens of billions times lower than what is needed to accomplish what we’re talking about here and I am being nice with those numbers. Finally, here is what I see: There are physics defying craft flying around in our air space all over the world, and China and the US and other countries are in a race to figure out how they work.

The craft potentially represent technology from a Type II civilization based on the US Navy’s very own estimates as reflected in the Star Wars Patent debacle. It is my belief that no country or group of humans on this planet can currently circumvent the power consumption or material science issues involved in these designs, even if they figure out the Scientific principles that may allow for such Star Wars craft to exist. Again, they are real, the question people should be asking is how they work and who built them and how.

I personally don’t care if you want to bury your head in the sand and believe that these are the result of black projects hidden away in some bunker in the United States or a different country. If that’s true, then great, we can all quit our jobs starting tomorrow. All we’d need is the right journalists, politicians and influencers of the world to get to the bottom of which group has secretly gotten on the level of a Type II civilization while the rest of us haven’t even hit Type I yet. Then they would have to ask that group to politely share their technology so that the rest of Humanity benefits. Do you believe there exists such a group? If so, they hold the keys to your future and a life you could be living that you can’t even dream of at the moment. I mean this in the most rational, least fanatic but inspiring way possible. We could be camping on an exoplanet right now, without a need to worry about a job or a care in the Universe. If you’ve managed to read everything in this article, congratulations. You are now in a position to answer my question: What kind of life do you want to live? One in which we live on a dying world with depleting resources everyone will fight for, or one where Human immortality and traversing other Galaxies become engrained into the Human identity?

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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31798/the-secretive-inventor-of-the-navys-bizarre-ufo-patents-finally-talks

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The Secretive Inventor Of The Navy's Bizarre 'UFO Patents' Finally Talks
Dr. Salvatore Pais has finally spoken to The War Zone concerning his seemingly out of this world patents filed on behalf of the U.S. Navy.

BY BRETT TINGLEYJANUARY 22, 2020

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Over the last six months, The War Zone has been deeply reporting on a set of bizarre patents assigned to the U.S. Navy. The patents, which are all the product of a single inventor, truly sound like the stuff of science fiction and include high-temperature superconductors, gravitational wave generators, compact fusion reactors, and high-energy electromagnetic field generators. Most radical of all is the “hybrid aerospace-underwater craft” claimed to be able to “engineer the fabric of our reality at the most fundamental level” by seemingly bending the laws of physics as we know them. Together, these patents seem to be the building blocks of a vehicle with truly out-of-this-world, UFO-like performance. As part of our reporting, we have been working to better understand the mind behind this mysterious intellectual property. Now, the elusive Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais has spoken to The War Zone.

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Dr. Pais recently published a new academic paper in the IEEE Transactions on Plasma Science journal detailing his work on his Plasma Compression Fusion Device. That device, the patent for which The War Zone has previously reported on, is a compact fusion reactor claimed to be capable of creating a net energy gain, a breakthrough that would revolutionize energy production if truly feasible.

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His comments:

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The fact that my work on the design of a Compact Fusion Reactor was accepted for publication in such a prestigious journal as IEEE TPS, should speak volumes as to its importance and credibility - and should eliminate (or at least alleviate) all misconceptions you (or any other person) may have in regard to the veracity (or possibility) of my advanced physics concepts.

Mr. Tingley, do realize that my work culminates in the enablement of the Pais Effect (original physical concept). The Pais Effect comprises the generation of extremely high electromagnetic energy fluxes (and hence high local energy densities) generated by controlled motion of electrically charged matter (from solid to plasma states) subjected to accelerated vibration and/or accelerated spin, via rapid acceleration transients. Such high energy EM radiation can locally interact with the Vacuum Energy State (VES) - the VES being the Fifth State of Matter (Fifth Essence - Quintessence), in other words the fundamental structure (foundational framework), from which Everything else (Spacetime included) in our Quantum Reality, emerges.

The Engineering of the Pais Effect can give rise to the Enablement of Macroscopic Quantum Coherence, which if you have closely been following my work, you understand the importance of. I must stress that all this work (patents, patent applications and technical papers) was conducted as a NAVAIR/ NAWCAD employee, and that my current position with Navy SSP has absolutely no bearing or in any way, shape or form has anything to do with this advanced physics work.

Thank you for your interest in my physics concepts, and try to keep an open mind in regard to my work.

Respectfully, Sal Salvatore Cezar Pais, Ph.D. A.D. MMXIX

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Despite Dr. Pais’ insistence that the Pais Effect is indeed a real phenomenon and the assurance that NAVAIR’s Chief Technology Officer gave the USPTO, we have been unable to find a single scientist or engineer who can corroborate the claims made in Dr. Pais’s patents. Nevertheless, in another correspondence, Dr. Pais assured The War Zone that “as far as the doubting SMEs [subject matter experts] are concerned, my work shall be proven correct one fine day…”.

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It will be a glorious day

Here is what the detractors say:

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According to Willis, Dr. Pais' most recent work represents "a classic case of pathological science." Willis says the literature for the plasma compression fusion device contains invented jargon, nonsensical statements, weak or absent evidence of an informed theoretical basis, an "overabundance of nebulous adjectives and adverbs instead of meaningful quantities in technical writing," and "lots of statements made in passing that seem to contradict basic and accepted physics." Willis says that Dr. Pais "references subjects that have consistently been plagued with pathological science and popular misunderstanding for decades, such as vacuum energy. It's hard not to suspect he's either drinking the kool-aid himself, or just chumming the waters for the kind of people who do." Still, even Willis notes that "this case is mildly unusual in that the author has a Ph. D. and is employed by the government, his patents are assigned to the government, and the paper is slated to appear in a rather widely-read IEEE outlet. However, these facts in no way temper my view that this is all basically nonsense--it just raises additional questions about the cui bono of this particular case."

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Again, it cannot exist in my worldview, so it does not exist

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As we continue to report on the extraordinary claims of Dr. Salvatore Pais and the inventions he has patented on behalf of the Navy, we continue to find scientists who suggest that the intended audience of these patents may not, in fact, be the scientific or aerospace communities as these patents and their supporting publications contain what most would call pseudoscience and empty jargon. Still, as we noted earlier, there are decades of research into similar approaches at breakthrough propulsion technologies or so-called "space time metric engineering", much of it U.S. government-funded.

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Esoteric science
“The things that should not be...”

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This is a common thing you guys fall prey to and also do yourself: you say something that is true, and then use non sequitur to just assert that something else is true even when it doesn't logically follow.

Yes something is happening right now. Crazy shite is happening. That doesn't mean any of your 4th reich UFO conspiracy bullshite is also true. Because that isn't how logical arguments work. Use evidence, not just speculation. You should use your skepticism and critical thinking on your own ideas, not just main stream ones.

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A timely watch...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MY8Nfzcn1qQ

The CIA whistleblower in the OP is featured in the documentary below:

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OUT OF SHADOWS OFFICIAL
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A look back for some perspective:

Trump released some of the JFK files in 2017-2018

https://www.history.com/news/final-jfk-files-assassination-documents-release

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UPDATED:NOV 21, 2018ORIGINAL:APR 26, 2018
Trump Holds Some JFK Assassination Files Back, Sets New 3-Year Deadline
Despite a promise to release everything on April 26, 2018, the Trump administration is withholding certain material in the JFK Assassination archive for extra review.
SARAH PRUITT

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The public has waited nearly 26 years for the last classified documents related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy to be released. But it looks like we’ll have to keep waiting, due to a decision by the Trump administration to withhold some material in the archive for extra review.

On April 26, in compliance with the deadline set by President Trump last October, the National Archives released 19,045 additional documents from the JFK assassination files. Instead of a full reveal, however, some material will still be kept from the public due to “identifiable national security, law enforcement, and foreign affairs concerns,” according to a White House memo. The president said he was ordering agencies to “re-review each of the redactions over the next three years,” and set a deadline for further release of documents of October 26, 2021.

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Most were let down, but missed the broader findings...

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a13135270/hitler-alive-jfk-files/

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Did Hitler Come Up in the JFK Files? Of Course He Did.
The CIA got wind he might be living down in Venezuela.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
NOV 1, 2017

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https://www.foxnews.com/science/hitler-wwii-escape-investigated-by-the-cia-bombshell-document-reveals

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DIGGING HISTORYPublished November 2, 2017
Hitler WWII 'escape' investigated by the CIA, bombshell document reveals

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A newly declassified CIA document reveals that the intelligence agency investigated the possibility that Adolf Hitler was alive in South America as late as 1955 — nearly a decade after World War II ended.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adolf-hitler-escape-nazi-germany-rumor-cia-documents-jfk-assassination/

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JFK docs show CIA heard rumor that Adolf Hitler escaped to South America
NOVEMBER 1, 2017 / 9:03 AM / CBS NEWS

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The Nazi assumed full control with the in your face assassination of JFK...

https://gizadeathstar.com/2017/11/things-make-go-hmmm-jfk-documents-release-hitler/

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The real problem is: just what the heck is this document doing in a tranche of documents supposedly about the assassination of President Kennedy? If - as some American talk shows are now desperate to convince us - the documents do nothing but prove the Warren Report, then what the dickens is a document about Adolf Hitler surviving in Columbia doing in the release? If the document was genuinely and intentionally filed with the JFK materials, then what the heck does Hitler have to do with JFK, beyond the fact that in his diary, President Kennedy expressed doubts about the Hitler-suicide-in-the-bunker story? We could, of course, be looking at a plain and simply case that the document was simply misfiled, or even at a case of a bit of intelligence agency humor of a deliberately planted document: "Ok... since what's his name wants to force the release, let them have fun with this one."

You get the idea, and I wouldn't put it past them, either. In fact, I can even see a case for them doing that on the day of the assassination itself, with the carefully placed news references to the murder weapon first being a German-made Mauser, and then an Italian-made Mannlicher-Carcano: "Let's really misdirect them and plant this bit of obfuscation."

The problem is, of course, when one wants to entertain the "intelligence agencies having fun planting documents and other false leads in the evidence" theory, that it begins quickly to fray around the edges, especially as one encounters Jack Ruby's warnings about the come-back of Fascism and a "whole new form of government" being emplaced (Gee... nothing Fascist looking about post-JFK assassination America, is there?), or when one encounters the strange presence of the goings-on in New Orleans, Dr. Mary Sherman, Dr. Alton Ochsner (and his famous patient Juan Peron), or Lee Harvey Oswald's notebook containing the telephone number and address of the president of the American Nazi Party, George Lincoln Rockwell, or even the oft-overlooked problem that the Warren Report mentions one of Oswald's marine buddies who heard him speaking not just Russian, but German as well, and you get the picture: there are little-known oddities about the assassination that are not widely discussed, even in the assassination research and revision community.

Which brings us back to this strange Hitler-survival-story document squatting in the middle of the JFK documents release. When viewed in the above context, it's not accidental, and would thus tend to confirm my argument made in LBJ and the Conspiracy to Kill Kennedy that there is a lurking Fascist element and involvement that no one wants to touch.

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Post for another time: the Nazis actually got to the moon first (using Nazi black world tech...)
JKF wanted to vet this (pilfering Nazi white world tech...)

Pay attention to Nazi and octopus themes...

https://screenrant.com/stranger-things-conspiracy-occult/

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Stranger Things' Real-Life Conspiracy & Occult Connections
Netflix's Stranger Things takes us to some twisted places, but where did the Duffer Brothers come up with some of this disturbing stuff?

BY ANDY L. KUBAI AUG 17, 2016

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Confused by science or not, the sheriff certainly has a nose for investigation, which catches wind of something rotten at the covert installation. After further investigation into the lab’s history, he discovers a connection to a disturbing CIA program titled MKUltra.

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During 20-year period from 1953 until 1973, the CIA sanctioned illicit experiments on unsuspecting United States and Canadian residents. The end-goal of Project MKUltra was to create effective offensive and defensive tactics against America’s Communist adversaries – who were reportedly conducting similar psychological tests. Led by Sidney Gottleib, the project sought to find new ways to coerce information from potential spies and create mind-control tactics useful in undercover operations.

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During the program, victims were manipulated via mind-altering drugs such as Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LSD), hypnosis, and sensory deprivation experiments. Reports also surfaced suggesting the use of torture, psychological, and physical abuse – some of this supposedly occurring under the auspices of a joint if unconfirmed program referred to as Project MONARCH.

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The original name of the show was supposed to be Montauk and set there (referencing Project Montauk)

https://nypost.com/video/this-is-why-stranger-things-might-be-based-on-a-true-story/

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Matthew Modine deserves a great deal of credit for his performance; from the moment of his arrival, viewers already knew Dr. Brenner wasn’t one of the good guys. As the show progressed, we slowly learned more about the not-so-good doctor through flashbacks to his experiments on Eleven. Exposing the young girl to torture, abuse, mind-bending experimentation, and isolation, revealed just how terrible a father figure ‘papa’ really was.

Of course, Dr. Brenner had his reasons for putting El through such horrible rigors, whether valid or not. Stranger Things slowly discloses that his research is an attempt to expand her telepathic and psychic abilities. And if the Duffer Brothers are as well-steeped in black ops and covert government organizations as fans assume – which they are – the DOE installation is a blend of MKUltra and the Stargate Project.

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The torture is purposeful
Reframe child trafficking and “satanism”...

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Stargate was the U.S. Government’s attempt to combat the remote viewing and psychic gap (not as critical as the Doomsday Weapon gap apparently). During the height of the Cold War, U.S. Intelligence believed the U.S.S.R. was developing a so-called 'psychotronic' espionage program. To combat Soviet psychic spies, the CIA assembled a group of allegedly gifted remote viewers and psychics to assist in intelligence gathering and counter-surveillance measures. At one point, the study even included notable mentalist Uri Geller.

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We have referenced this program in other threads (remote viewing other planets)

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The problem of multiple universes, according to Clarke, is a size issue. To an acrobat, a tightrope is perceived as a one-dimensional line, because we’re so much larger than it. Our perception of it only allows us two options – walk forwards or backwards – to avoid falling from it. However, a flea is tiny compared to a human and even the rope. It is able travel along any aspect of the rope, even underneath it, with ease as a result. While this doesn’t entirely describe the problems facing the boys’ rescue mission (theoretical physicist Paul Steinhardt does a fine job), the analogy loosely explains why most humans, El excluded, can only operate in our present dimension. String Theory purports that most of us aren’t capable of witnessing several worlds happening simultaneously around us.

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Reframe schizophrenia and mental illness (overt) and synchronicities (subtle influences)
Phillip K Dick made this arguement...

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The Demogorgon, according to its Dungeons & Dragons roots, may originate from one of several sources. The etymology of the word itself is possibly a mistranslation of the Greek word demiourgon, a form of the word demiurge – which itself is probably a combination of the Greek word daimon (or spirit) and gorgos (quick). Misnomer or not, the concept quickly made its way into the pantheon of early pagans and Christians.

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The main evil in the 2nd season is the Mind Flayer which is an overt nod to Cthulhu



We have discussed reference to Cthulhu here (Metallica and Antarctica references)

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Although this particular iteration of the Demogorgon entered our world via Eleven’s powers, her attempted espionage was orchestrated by Dr. Brenner. Upon discovering the creature, Brenner reveals the true depths of his madness. Much like a man consumed by one of Lovecraft’s dark creations, he makes a figurative deal with the devil. For the future of America’s security, he would willingly sacrifice anyone who got in his way.

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This is the deal we made with the Nazi (who in turn had made deals with sinister forces...)

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As terrifying as the Demogorgon could be (and let’s face it, it’s change-of-underwear time for even the toughest individual), it was Dr. Brenner’s ruthlessness and callous nature which allowed the monster access to our world. Our very own government even gave him free-reign to conduct his twisted experiments in the name of national security.

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I thought that the Nazis fled to the moon after WWII like in Iron Sky.