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re: The decline of religious faith in America and what that means for our future

Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:15 pm to
The point is that it’s easy to say objective morality doesn’t exist in the confines and protection of a society that is providing freedom of expression based on principles of objective moral truth given by God.

I’d be much more inclined to believe Cuckeye’s claim of subjective morality if he were a part of this man made, subjective morality utopia that hasn’t devolved into chaos

The entire western world is still standing on the pillars of objective morality. I think everything you see happening today is a result of cracks in those pillars. Gender fluidity, critical race theory, etc. it’s all based on the principle of subjective truth and morality. Do you think society and those ideas are going to bring us into a better world?
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Prove God does not exist.


I didn't address that matter.

I say there was no virgin birth and you cannot prove there was. moreover regardless of whether you could convince me or I choose to have Faith in the story a stupendous number of citizens scoff at the notion.
I say that the murder of the central figure of your cult does not bring rain and does not confer an afterlife of heaven to baby rapists just because they like the story of Jesus as related in the tale.

I recommend the novel Henderson the Rain King.

as for God its my personal opinion since age 18 that there is only God. nothing else exists. we all arise within One Conscious Divine Person.



This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:25 pm to
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we all arise within One Conscious Divine Person.


I always thought you were brain damaged from too many psychedelics.....now I know.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:25 pm to
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I didn't address that matter.


You said "false teachings" and everyone knows what you meant.

Prove God does not exist.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41864 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:52 pm to
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as for God its my personal opinion since age 18 that there is only God. nothing else exists. we all arise within One Conscious Divine Person.
Where did you obtain this belief? What influenced you to believe this?
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5626 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:53 pm to
it's damned near 2023
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:57 pm to
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Well, we will just have to disagree on this point


That's fine.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 3:00 pm to
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What an asinine claim. Where is your proof?


If there is no objective morality, it isn't possible for the country to have been founded in objective morality based on religion.

I made the assertion that objective morality doesn't exist. You've failed to provide an example, or anything outside of half-assed and poorly reasoned arguments.
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:00 pm to
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people used to wonder how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.

its immaterial how many signers of the declaration believed morality is subjective. not many. Jefferson. so what?

judge quoted by a justice in the roe decision burned women at the stake for wrong views on life.

since a significant plurality now see the bible as a work of fiction its outrageous to force that fiction on the body politic.




I feel the same way about communism and the idea that the leaders will adhere to the same "principles" they preach..pure fiction

Now stop being a coward. Ban Bet on the elections in November? Loser has to PronBomb thier own account in the OT.. You think that Democrats are going to come out ahead nationally in the November elections. What are the stipulations for a win vs a loss? Let's do this
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 5:37 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:58 pm to
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quote:
we all arise within One Conscious Divine Person.



I always thought you were brain damaged from too many psychedelics.....now I know


1. 100s of millions of Buddhists observe the yin yang symbol within a sphere.
the two opposite patterns represent the apparent separate other and the apparent viewer of the other. they both exist within the One spherical divine.

and I got this when I was 18 and never had any drugs.

the patterns represent relatedness and separateness. both. simultaneously.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 6:01 pm to
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CelticDog


Hey Pussy. Ban Bet?
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 6:51 pm to
When someone starts yapping like a chihuahua about ban bets they usually have four or five alters.
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5705 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 6:56 pm to
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other religion's tenants


quote:

tenants


I can’t remotely even pretend to read any of your posts after this. I don’t think that is the word you were shooting for. I’ll pray for your soul.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9149 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:26 pm to
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Times are spiritually darker in America than they’ve ever been, yet people are leaving churches in record numbers.



Why should they stay? Everywhere you look, people in power are doing the most evil. You pray and give, it's hard to believe or keep faith when nothing gets better.

Do you only have and keep what you need and, give the rest to the church?

Doing the right thing is the hardest thing to do so, most people don't or won't.

Some of the finest people I know are not involved or a member of a church. It's just not their thing.
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:01 pm to
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When someone starts yapping like a chihuahua about ban bets they usually have four or five alters.




"yapping" 5,500 posts
Nope. No need for four or five alters because I don't give that much of a frick He's such a little bitch he refuses to put his money where his mouth is and risk his beloved profile he's built up such street cred on
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