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re: The biggest lie in Presidential history?
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:58 pm to Socratics
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:58 pm to Socratics
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If you only follow the parts you like isn't that just cherry picking the parts you like of a religion and not actually following it.
No kidding. Bring up gay marriage and the Bible thumpers immediately go to their favorite Bible quote condemning gays.
Bring up a Bible quote that condones killing innocent (and not-so-innocent) people? "Well, nobody takes the Bible literally." Yea ok.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:58 pm to Freder
I'm not a Christian, but please continue. I'm just stating the obvious fact that modern Christianity is better than modern Islam. Not all ideologies are equal.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:04 pm to genro
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The biggest lie in Presidential history?
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I'm not sure this can be quantified, sorry.
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No logical disputes, just name-calling
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Happens to me a lot on here.
No doubt. I think that's why they're calling you a clown.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Just because something can't be quantified doesn't mean it can't be supported by rational argument.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:05 pm to genro
And I'm stating the fact that anybody can take a any religious text and distort it to fit their warped agenda. Muslims are no better or worse than Christians.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:08 pm to genro
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I'm just stating the obvious fact that modern Christianity is better than modern Islam.
Is modern Buddhism better than Christianity? Based on your logic, whatever that is.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:08 pm to Freder
Just for grins I went and checked out the 9 tenants of the church of satan.
They seemed less violent than the OT or Koran.
They seemed less violent than the OT or Koran.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:09 pm to Freder
quote:How many modern Christian theologies do this? How many modern Islamic theologies do this?
And I'm stating the fact that anybody can take a any religious text and distort it to fit their warped agenda
quote:Muslims are much more likely to have their views warped due to the straightforward structural nature of the Qu'ran (as opposed to the Bible's ambiguity, many different authors, large thematic variances, etc). This a major contributing factor. I do not dispute that their conditions and culture also contribute.
Muslims are no better or worse than Christians.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:11 pm to Freder
quote:And where have Christians been slaughtering hundreds/thousands of people in Jesus' name lately. And don't play the tired old Crusades card. That was how many centuries ago? I'm talking about right now. Today.
Muslims are no better or worse than Christians
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:11 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:Eh, probably. Christianity still has a propensity for distortion, just much less so than Islam. My understanding of Buddhism is that it is more spiritual and vague. I don't think there are many directives for antagonism and violence like those that can be occasionally found in the Bible, and are clearly and thoroughly laid out in an organized fashion in the Qu'ran.
Is modern Buddhism better than Christianity? Based on your logic, whatever that is.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:12 pm to genro
Good point.
Sure Christianity has a few dozen snake handlers, but Islam has millions of 'kill the infidel' types.
Sure Christianity has a few dozen snake handlers, but Islam has millions of 'kill the infidel' types.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:13 pm to genro
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The biggest lie in Presidential history?
I will have the most transparent adminstration in history
If you like your plan, you can keep your pland
BO
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:13 pm to BayouBlitz
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Is modern Buddhism better than Christianity? Based on your logic, whatever that is.
All religions, at their most fundamental level, preach the same thing: be a good person. So I think all religions are equal.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:13 pm to KCT
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So, there's absolutely no correlation between Islam and the perpetual violence that we see in the Middle East?
Where in the ever living frick did I say that?
You really shouldn't interact on a message board where people use words, you seem to have trouble comprehending what you read.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:16 pm to genro
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Those are political maneuvers and deceptions. This is a basic denial of reality, the world around us, and history.. He may as well have said the ocean wasn't salty.
I agree with you in a sense. Of course it depends on whose definition of innocents you use. If you're using the definition of the religion itself then his statement might be accurate.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:16 pm to genro
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The fact of the matter is Christianity has been adapted to fit our modern times.
Another interesting aspect of religion it has obviously changed over time with however men decided it should change....how can a dogma delivered by a god be changed to meet the lifestyles of mere mortals????
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:17 pm to Freder
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All religions, at their most fundamental level, preach the same thing: be a good person.
All religions say whatever we humans want them to say.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:20 pm to genro
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I'm just stating the obvious fact that modern Christianity is better than modern Islam. Not all ideologies are equal.
All religion is bad, a deception, but Islam is currently the worst.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:24 pm to Freder
quote:No. That's just a modern multiculturalist apology. Aztec Human Sacrifice taught you to be a good person? Mormon polygamy and racism taught you to be a good person? Religion is just an ideology. A philosophy, a worldview, a set of beliefs. Some are better than others.
All religions, at their most fundamental level, preach the same thing: be a good person.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:32 pm to genro
Not close. Try this one:
Rumsfeld: " The bulk of the funds for Iraq's reconstruction will come from Iraqis -- from oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investment, as well as some contributions we've already received and hope to receive from the international community."
Wolfowitz: "we're really dealing with a country that could finance its own reconstruction." LINK
What actually happened:
Rumsfeld: " The bulk of the funds for Iraq's reconstruction will come from Iraqis -- from oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investment, as well as some contributions we've already received and hope to receive from the international community."
Wolfowitz: "we're really dealing with a country that could finance its own reconstruction." LINK
What actually happened:
quote:LINK
(Reuters) - The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.
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