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re: That darn Thomas Massie trying to be fiscally responsible again. MJ blocks him.

Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1555 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:52 am to
You another libertarian clown?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2845 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:53 am to
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This clown needs to stop chasing windmills and learn how to negotiate if he wants something done.


Yeah. A "clown" who is exposing neocons as mere war puppets and...CLOWNS.

Massie is showing the world what real America-First looks like.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5769 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:53 am to
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You another libertarian clown?


Are you another statist MAGA stooge?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41007 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:54 am to
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Again you’re free to ignore how silent he was before this last year. 

Jesus you're an idiot. He's voted against every NDAA since he's been in office, for the very reasons he lists in his amendments. But keep thinking Brian Kilmeade and Mark Levin Republicans will save us.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2845 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:56 am to
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Why isn't Johnson(and therefore Trump) on board with these spending cuts to foreign entities???

MAGA has said over and over and over this was a top priority. Massie is just forcing you to show your hand.



EXACTLY.

The Cult HATES when the Globalist-necon puppet hand is exposed.

Johnson is just a rubber stamp mannequin and tool. Same ol' same ol' for GOP House "Leaders".
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1555 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:58 am to
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The Cult


Love how the left and tds use this word as a cult the last 10 years while trying to project it
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16314 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:35 am to
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There is zero justification to send any money to another country when we're $40 trillion in debt.


Looking at it realistically.

You think it’s at all possible to eliminate it all in one swipe? Politically?

There is moving the needle and there is wasting time. A complete ban is unfortunately a waste of time currently.

Use a scalpel. Not a bomb. And be persistent with that scalpel.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16314 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:38 am to
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It'll be impossible to "patch" up $37 trillion of debt (aka the looting of America.)


And it will be impossible to completely stop all foreign aid all at once.

So you want a process or nothing at all? That’s the question. We can tell and scream about foreign aid…. Mostly rightfully so… but it will absolutely not be stopped all at once. Not happening. It just isn’t realistic.

So begin a process. Not a waste of time.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:03 am to
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And if you think Massie needs to go, maybe you are part of the problem.
MAGA loves the uniparty swamp now.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:04 am to
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You’re easily fooled as Massie has been in congress for years and just now calling for this. Again you’re free to ignore how silent he was before this last year. He also can blame the speaker when he didn’t even put his name in for it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:05 am to
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I’m also waiting on term limits. He will never push that though
Wait, you think a single congressman can personally amend the constitution?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297283 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:05 am to
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Looking at it realistically.


The public sees it differently.

Trump needs to drop his neocon dreams and focus on the economy here.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16314 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:11 am to
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The public sees it differently.


And a high percentage of “the public” leaves me dumbfounded how they even manage to function in society at all.

Look. If this was possible. I’d be completely on board. But it’s just not. It just isn’t. Bummer that it’s not. But it’s not.

So begin a process of eliminating waste. We already nipped USAID, etc. Awesome. Got that done. Continue on with that.

Don’t waste time with what cannot possibly be done at once.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297283 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:14 am to
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And a high percentage of “the public” leaves me dumbfounded how they even manage to function in society at all.


Yet, they determine elections. You dont seem to get the point.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16314 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:20 am to
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Yet, they determine elections. You dont seem to get the point.


And that’s both a blessing and a curse.

You know what else gets you a leg up in elections? Action. Promises and failure gets you nowhere. Bush 1 will attest to that.

Cutting USAID is action. Cutting the department of education is action. Cuts to “woke” initiatives is action. Reforms in entitlements is action. A continuation of that gets your voters back to the polls in the midterms.

Promising the world and sticking a pole in your bicycle front spokes causes your voters to not care and stay home while the other party takes back control.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297283 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:21 am to
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You know what else gets you a leg up in elections? Action.


And the public sees Trump fiddling around in the Caribbean and not focusing on the economy.
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Cutting USAID is action. Cutting the department of education is action. Cuts to “woke” initiatives is action. Reforms in entitlements is action.


The "public" only cares about the economy. USAID cuts were awesome, but we havent touched entitlements, and most folks dont care about "wokeism" or the dept of education. In fact, I bet most people didnt even know there was one.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 9:26 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:23 am to
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Promises and failure gets you nowhere. Bush 1 will attest to that.
Cool. What year of teh Trump admin will spending be lower YoY?

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Reforms in entitlements is action. A continuation of that gets your voters back to the polls in the midterms.
There has been no entitlement reform. Nor will there be.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6165 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:24 am to
I agree with most of this. Hopefully he is flooding the system in the hopes of asking for all this in an attempt to get some of it, but I do not think that is what he is doing.

Massie likes to ask for everything, get nothing because he cannot make deals work, and then blame everyone.

he will criticize and omnibus bill and then create and omnibus demand.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16314 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:31 am to
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There has been no entitlement reform. Nor will there be.


That’s not entirely true. Work requirements are being instituted at some levels and some junk food items are being banned for SNAP purchases.

Again, a start. Positive momentum.

Now instead of everyone just balking at what I have said…. Articulate a coherent plan, that is completely feasible in the political climate, for complete cessation of all foreign aid. And how it passes.

Explain it and get me on board of how it’s possible.

Or just downvote and bitch.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:48 am to
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Work requirements are being instituted at some levels and some junk food items are being banned for SNAP purchases.
Those are transfer programs not entitlement programs. And those work requirements are dependent on states implementing, and/or the 2027 congress actually passing them.

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Now instead of everyone just balking at what I have said…. Articulate a coherent plan, that is completely feasible in the political climate, for complete cessation of all foreign aid. And how it passes.

Explain it and get me on board of how it’s possible.
Ummm. .One is on the table, but you're arguing against it.
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