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Tell about demographic changes in CO and VA

Posted on 12/23/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47454 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 7:58 pm
As I do my 270towin forecaster and seeing how states stack up, I start putting these in solid blue categories. But, these states were won by Dole and Bush 43 twice easily. What has happened that they are gone so soon? We must start to win the Midwest consistently (add MN) to counteract the losing support in the Southwest.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:01 pm to
Virginia is the fedgov effect. Everything from Loudon County in is solid blue so even if you sweep the Richmond and Western Virginia areas it’s not enough to win. The influx of fedgov employees has forever changed that state.

I say this as someone who lived there for almost a decade and left recently
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47454 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Virginia is the fedgov effect. Everything from Loudon County in is solid blue so even if you sweep the Richmond and Western Virginia areas it’s not enough to win. The influx of fedgov employees has forever changed that state.


Honest question, has this not always been the case?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42616 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:03 pm to
Social media and MSM propaganda.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

What has happened that they are gone so soon?
CO-
Identity politics has taken over the left and it works here because of groups of people that are easily swayed by feelings. Maybe because their quality of life/lifestyle is high?

VA-
The migration of power to Washington and those migrants ability to influence the populace.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76338 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:06 pm to
Liberal transplants. Like what’s happening to Texas now. They come like locusts.

I think the country is simply becoming more liberal, like the rest of the western world. The GOP could have tapped into that trend by becoming more libertarian.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48931 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Honest question, has this not always been the case?

Fedgov has grown and grown and grown and grown
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Honest question, has this not always been the case?


Sort of but as of recently fedgov was at record employment
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5055 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:08 pm to
People from California moving to CO(see what’s happening in Texas).
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:09 pm to
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Honest question, has this not always been the case?

I don’t think so. As the purse of the federal government has exploded in recent years (federal budget is an albatross larger than the GDP of all but a few nations), and its control over other large swaths of the economy (like healthcare and housing), the lobbyists and corporations/groups that depend on that money have all moved into the area.

DC and it’s suburbs is one of the only areas of the country that actually saw an increase in housing prices when the housing crisis occurred.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:17 pm to
People from Cali have also turned Nevada blue.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:22 pm to
quote:


Virginia is the fedgov effect. Everything from Loudon County in is solid blue so even if you sweep the Richmond and Western Virginia areas it’s not enough to win. The influx of fedgov employees has forever changed that state.


It's the ever expanding growth of the DC suburbs, but it's also the tech boom, and the influx of transplants that came with that.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:23 pm to
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The GOP could have tapped into that trend by becoming more libertarian.


Not a viable platform. There's no emotional hook.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:25 pm to
quote:


Honest question, has this not always been the case?


Loudoun was very conservative, up through the early 90s.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26183 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:29 pm to
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becoming more libertarian

Most Republicans I've met are social libertarian. This is so out of step with the party platform.

The days of the Pence Republican is long gone, if it ever existed to begin with.
This post was edited on 12/23/18 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78666 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:33 pm to
Yes that’s correct. Boorish Moralism and Puritanical finger- pointing is now the sole domain of Progressivism.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:34 pm to
Only time I’ll agree with you

Pence/Cruz wing can never win on a national stage.

Rubio/Romney/Kasich wing doesn’t do enough or come out publicly to be socially liberal.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105414 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:36 pm to
It has gone solidly blue. There has been a vast amount of liberals pouring in from Cali and other areas.

That state will not be voting "Red" in a very long time to never. Another beautiful state fricked over by liberal ideology.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36065 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Boorish Moralism and Puritanical finger-pointing is now the sole domain of Progressivism.

Spot on.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 12/23/18 at 8:42 pm to
The house of delegates is still conservative, as is Richmond.

They will ruin it all though.
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