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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:11 am to
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:11 am to
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The best studies I’ve show that systemic racism does exist. Higher sentencing rates for blacks and Latinos for the same crimes (controlling for things like previous convictions, education, etc.). Higher rates of non-violent force in arrests for blacks. Etc.


Link to these studies?

I don’t have a link, but I’ve seen criminal justice panels say the opposite. once taking into account for past record, there isn’t any discrepancies in sentencing. Now they admitted, their are some egregious sentencing, but it doesn’t fall towards one particular race.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:39 am to
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I think systemic is the term

Partially...it's systemic faux outrage/victimhood
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28468 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:43 am to
Anyone who uses systematic racism instead of the correct term, systemic racism, should be barred from discussing the issue.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12649 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:45 am to
What. no 'structural' racism?

I understand structural racism is closing fast on systemic racism - may be neck and neck.

Gimme some of that structural racism any day...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:47 am to
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Can anyone enlighten me more on how black people in this country are a product of systematic racism? The only systematic racism I know of is what the Democratic Party does to their black voters.
You obviously meant systemic. It's way less bad than it used to be, but it seems silly to pretend it's completely gone. The Arbery case is a perfect example and actually does have echoes of the Jim Crow days. It seems very hard to believe that if the races had been reversed there that the perps would not have been immediately arrested and charged.

However, I do not really believe that en masse, systemic racism holds a great number of Americans down.

I recommend listening to Glenn Loury. He's a prominent black professor/economist who speaks often on these matters. His recent conversation with Wilfred Reilly almost completely dispelled the meme that coronavirus = racism against black people.

LINK
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26770 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:50 am to
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It's way less bad than it used to be, but it seems silly to pretend it's completely gone.


This...
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:52 am to
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Do you realize why this is done? Can you imagine the surrounding areas of the hood if the money and food stopped flowing. God have mercy on the suburbs.


WHile this would be devastating the real reason is because the rich and powerful are able to maintain their positions of wealth and power because we are all collectively taxed and the revenue is used to subsidize their production costs. Poor people do not own Walmart and section 8 housing and companies that construct public transportation projects...those are the rich and powerful and the apparent beneficiaries of the social safety net that those on the right cry about. The REAL beneficiaries are the political class...on both sides...because the wealthy can get preferential treatment through politics like tax cuts and reduced regulation for some but not all and the poor can get what appears to be a free handout....and the political class panders to their base of support and the rest of choose sides and pretend we are all in this together when in fact the political class, on both sides, knows we aren't all in it together....they work like mad men to keep us at one another's throats and reap the power and the wealth.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:34 am to
there can't be systemic racism when a minority was freely elected to the highest office in the land, twice. those two concepts are mutually exclusive, they cannot both be true and it is a fact that obama was president so systemic racism is impossible. if there were systemic racism, no minority could ever be elected president.

the idea that there is systemic racism in this country is laughable. if anything, reverse discrimination is actually systemic considering affirmative action, quotas, diversity, etc.

now, the justice system is a different matter. there's some pretty hard stats that minorities do get treated different in court.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:34 am to
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