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re: Sydney Powell is a sad example of the cost of emotional thinking & going off the deep end

Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:52 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:52 am to
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I agree. Attorneys for the most part are emotional and not very bright


Most are socially awkward. They tend to do a lot of shite flinging.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:55 am to
I guess you learned your lesson.

Better not to stand up to corruption. Best to roll over and play dead. Accept what they are doing to our country and our Constitution. Pretend like the corruption and criminality doesn't exist. It's best that way. It's what our Founding Father's would have wanted.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 7:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:56 am to
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How did she not know she was committing a crime at the time?

There's a lot of squishy in here right now b/c we don't have a full knowledge of the facts. It's very likely she didn't commit a crime, but a lot depends on what she knew, how she got the information, etc. I'm sure there are lots of communications and discussions that will come out to give a better picture.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:56 am to
Or there is a point in a person’s life where they have a moral epiphany.

Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 7:57 am to
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Only a tyrant would believe that legal advice is criminal.


There is nothing wrong with legal advice. When you as a client shop around for an attorney to say what you want to hear and to feed your delusions, then you have a problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:08 am to
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Only a tyrant would believe that legal advice is criminal.

I agree, mostly, but this isn't some absolute.

If a client comes to you asking how to launder money, and you advise them on how to do it, AND set up the shell companies, then that legal advice is 100% a criminal conspiracy. Lawyers go to jail all the time for shady-illegal advice and furthering illegal plans of their clients.

Now, is it likely her actions are more the money laundering type? No. But that's not really what this thread is about.

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Sydney Powell represented her client. She did so when the entirety of Big Law refused to get involved - despite that they were the only legal organizations large enough to handle a massive scope of work in such a short period of time. Big Law fired their own client in a manner prejudicial to him, and then bragged about it in the New York Times.


She promoted insanity and seems to have bought into that insanity as being the truth (for her sake, I hope this is true or else we need to revise that calculation above about the likelihood of this behavior moving into criminal status). There is a reason the law has basic sanctions procedures, and it's to ensure lawyers don't represent clients promoting this sort of insanity. Just because she was representing her clients is not enough.

Look at the model rules.

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1.2(d): A lawyer shall not counsel a client to engage, or assist a client, in conduct that the lawyer knows is criminal or fraudulent, but a lawyer may discuss the legal consequences of any proposed course of conduct with a client and may counsel or assist a client to make a good faith effort to determine the validity, scope, meaning or application of the law.


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2:1: In representing a client, a lawyer shall exercise independent professional judgment and render candid advice. In rendering advice, a lawyer may refer not only to law but to other considerations such as moral, economic, social and political factors, that may be relevant to the client's situation.


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3.1: A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification or reversal of existing law. A lawyer for the defendant in a criminal proceeding, or the respondent in a proceeding that could result in incarceration, may nevertheless so defend the proceeding as to require that every element of the case be established.


You have to remember the standard is typically known or should have known.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:09 am to
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Attorneys for the most part are emotional and not very bright

Glad I don't factor into either group in your assessment.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:10 am to
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Why wasn’t Lin Wood indicted?


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Are we finding out he was a lawfare provocateur used to establish a predicate? Light the fuse and run?



We kind of discussed this elsewhere, but he's likely too big of a risk either as an informant or defendant, likely, so it's just not worth it.

Dude is nuckin futs.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:10 am to
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There is a point where emotional thinking devolves into irrationality and that irrationality can devolve into utter insanity.



Agreed. You see it displayed every day with people who have TDS.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:11 am to
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Or there is a point in a person’s life where they have a moral epiphany.


Autists don't usually understand individual morality. The connection between conscious and subconscious are not there.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 8:14 am
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:11 am to
Biden definitely received 81 million legitimate votes.

You've finally convinced me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:12 am to
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The very frustrating aspect is one someone who should know and act better, like an Adam Schiff, engages (while not borne from emotion but rather cunningness) in scurrilous actions and statements and bears no real consequence.

The forum really does matter, as well as following the rules of that forum.

Schiff is acting as a legislator and using the rules of the legislative body of which he's a member. Also, I may be remembering wrong, but I don't think his behavior extended outside of this forum (which is where the alleged Trump conspiracy allowed shaky prosecutions).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:12 am to
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RIP the special forces team that obviously didn’t make it out of Germany with the server after that gun battle with the CIA


Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:13 am to
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Brainwashing does not happen at once.

It happens in increments.

It is beyond your conscious awareness.

But one day, you wake up and find yourself thinking in a certain way.

So be very wary of repetition.

That’s how cults brainwash.


This also applies to how the population has been maneuvered that caused you to post this. There was a multitude of cheating in 2020, and proof of it, but you're right Powell bit too much of the pie.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:14 am to
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I guess you learned your lesson.

Better not to stand up to corruption.


That's not the lesson.

The lesson is if you're trying to stand up to corruption, you can't base your fight on insanity and outright fraud.

You will lose the case and then face the corrupt system.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:15 am to
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Or there is a point in a person’s life where they have a moral epiphany.


To engage in insanity?

Does it look like this?

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:16 am to
If your truly curious about cult like beliefs and delusional behavior's..... look left.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:17 am to
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This also applies to how the population has been maneuvered that caused you to post this


True. They've been hammering since 2016.

Brainwashing works on people who have no intuition.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:18 am to
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If your truly curious about cult like beliefs and delusional behavior's..... look left.

And right
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/23 at 8:18 am to
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There was a multitude of cheating in 2020,

And yet no solid evidence has been produced 2.5 years later.

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This also applies to how the population has been maneuvered that caused you to post this.

And.. no
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