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re: Swine flu (H1N1) vs Chinese flu
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:42 pm to DollaChoppa
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:42 pm to DollaChoppa
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They arent comparable, this is many times worse. Continuing this fable that we shouldnt be taking these actions because of swine flu is moronic
The point of the comparison is the reaction, not necessarily to keep score. H1N1 was never a big deal, no government action. Weak media coverage.
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All those swine flu stats are estimates. The actual number of worldwide confirmed swine flu deaths was just over 18,000.
About one in four people in Louisiana that think they have it actually have it, according to the tests. Demand for testing was not nearly comparable. Again, the reaction does not seem to correlate very strongly.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:44 pm to Pendulum
I’ll continue to question this whole thing hoping many others do as well. You can’t improve without criticizing. Your desire to be board cop is cool though.
18-24 months from now we’ll learn a lot. We can compare them all much better then. For now, it’s good to ask questions.
For you liberal elite. I’ve not made a single assertion I just think it’s healthy to keep questioning respectfully. Your big brain may not like it.
18-24 months from now we’ll learn a lot. We can compare them all much better then. For now, it’s good to ask questions.
For you liberal elite. I’ve not made a single assertion I just think it’s healthy to keep questioning respectfully. Your big brain may not like it.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:45 pm to OceanMan
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H1N1 was never a big deal, no government action
It was a form of influenza, we had treatment. Surely this isnt too complicated.
ETA in response to me being a board cop: I'm pissed because theres a ton of really smart people on this board, this board has alot of value and information. All of that is getting crowded out by ignorant fools like you.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:48 pm to Pendulum
Didn’t 4K people die of h1n1? Stop calling it swine flu. The swinish people are being unfairly targeted
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:49 pm to Pendulum
You are made about debate? Weird.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:49 pm to Pendulum
4000
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1701
Is it the start of the 1st quarter or the end of the third?
Vs
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Is it the start of the 1st quarter or the end of the third?
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:52 pm to roadGator
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18-24 months from now we’ll learn a lot. We can compare them all much better then. For now, it’s good to ask questions.
Fair enough. But let's ask questions with a little perspective in hand first.
From your OP
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To date we have just over 100k confirmed
Why the panic and difference in coverage? Weird.
A few things are worth noting:
1. A week ago that 100K number was ~19K so it multiplied by a factor of 5 in just a week
2. We still have only tested a very small (<.5%) of the population
3. We've taken drastic measures the last few weeks to curtail the spread of this. Shutting down all major sporting events, then localities shutting down restaurants, bars, Churches are cancelling masses etc. That's in addition to shutting down travel from other countries which played a big role in stifling this.
4. We don't have a proven treatment for this and no one has immunity so there is a real concern about the mortality rate if this were to spiral out beyond our control
5. The real important thing is the body count. ~12,500 people died from H1N1 over a 20 month period. Left unchecked this would easily surpass that body count in a much shorter period of time
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:56 pm to Powerman
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Not sure how you're coming up with those numbers
All info from this thread. If 100k cases came from testing .3% of the population, than if you extrapolate that over the rest of the. 99.7% (100k/.3%) you get 33M
In other words .3% of the people is about a million people, if 100k is positive, that’s a 10% rate and 10% of 330M is...but that extrapolation would mean that there are 33M RIGHT NOW, not when the dust settles.
In other other words, you don’t seem to be able to properly scale the magnitude of this thing.
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Holy shite why the frick do you need a link for that?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:57 pm to OceanMan
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All info from this thread. If 100k cases came from testing .3% of the population, than if you extrapolate that over the rest of the. 99.7% (100k/.3%) you get 33M
OK you didn't really explain what the numbers were assigned to
But I don't think that's a valid assumption. The people seeking the tests are people that are showing symptoms.
It's not a random sampling so I don't think you could make an assumption of 33M currently infected
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:59 pm to Powerman
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The people seeking the tests are people that are showing symptoms.
No longer true
Kathy Griffin for example
Also, we are so bored here and apparently have so many tests available you don’t even need a fever any longer to get tested. Guess what’s going to happen next.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:00 pm to Pendulum
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It was a form of influenza, we had treatment. Surely this isnt too complicated.
How many people died? Can we use that as a baseline for insignificant?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:01 pm to Powerman
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OK you didn't really explain what the numbers were assigned to
But I don't think that's a valid assumption. The people seeking the tests are people that are showing symptoms.
It's not a random sampling so I don't think you could make an assumption of 33M currently infected
Already went over this.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:03 pm to OceanMan
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How many people died? Can we use that as a baseline for insignificant?
12,469 from April 2009 to April 2010
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:03 pm to ClampClampington
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My mom contracted H1N1 back in 09 or 10 (likely from working at the hospital). She woke up sick one morning, got knocked on her arse for a week while never leaving the guest room, then was fine.
So we can use “knocked on you arse for a week” the baseline for insignificant as far as symptoms go?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:04 pm to roadGator
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Also, we are so bored here and apparently have so many tests available you don’t even need a fever any longer to get tested
This doesn't line up with anything I'm seeing
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:06 pm to Powerman
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12,469 from April 2009 to April 2010
Answer the question
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:07 pm to OceanMan
You asked how many people died
12,469 people died
I answered the question
12,469 people died
I answered the question
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:08 pm to Powerman
Don’t give a shite. It’s happening here.
For the others , not named powerbottom.
For the others , not named powerbottom.
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Three months after the coronavirus emerged in China, it has quickly spread to nearly half a million people across the globe, killing more than 22,000 people and bringing the world economy to a near-grinding halt.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:09 pm to roadGator
Where are you getting this idea that anyone can get tested so easily?
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