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re: Supreme Court finds Boston’s refusal to fly Christian flag unconstitutional

Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:52 pm to
there needs to be consequences in cases like this.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35869 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:55 pm to
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How long has it been since we saw a 9-0 ?

A huge portion of their opinions are 9-0. It is not rare at all, in fact 9-0 and 8-1 opinions are the overwhelming majority of cases and much more common than 5-4 ones.

Major, controversial cases greatly skew public perception on SCOTUS outcomes.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 1:56 pm
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66529 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:59 pm to
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The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously ruled


You know you have massively fricked up if you can get today's version of the Supreme Court to unanimously rule on anything. Wow.


ETA: I did not know the fact listed by the poster above me.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7348 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:11 pm to
This will be appealed to the Ministry of Truth by executive order.
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:14 pm to
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In a 9-0 decision



The wise Latina must have been confused


She's not a biologist.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2343 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:36 pm to
Gorsuch from the top rope

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Ultimately, Lemon devolved into a kind of children's game. Start with a Christmas scene, a menorah, or a flag. Then pick your own "reasonable observer" avatar. In this game, the avatar's default settings are lazy, uninformed about history, and not particularly inclined to legal research. His default mood is irritable. To play, expose your avatar to the display and ask for his reaction. How does he feel about it? Mind you: Don't ask him whether the proposed display actually amounts to an establishment of religion. Just ask him if he feels it "endorses" religion. If so, game over.


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'd say, to be fair, at least some of the blame belongs with SCOTUS and traces back to Lemon v. Kurtzman. Issued during a "'bygone era'" when this Court took a more freewheeling approach to interpreting legal texts. Lemon sought to devise a one-size-fits-all test for resolving Establishment Clause disputes. That project bypassed any inquiry into the Clause's original meaning. It ignored longstanding precedents. And instead of bringing clarity to the area, Lemon produced only chaos. In time, SCOTUS came to recognize these problems, abandoned Lemon, and returned to a more humble jurisprudence centered on the Constitution's original meaning. Yet in this case, the city chose to follow Lemon anyway. It proved a costly decision, and Boston's travails supply a cautionary tale for other localities and lower courts.


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With all these messages directing and redirecting the inquiry to original meaning as illuminated by history, why did Boston still follow Lemon in this case? Why do other localities and lower courts sometimes do the same thing, allowing Lemon even now to "si[t] up in its grave and shuffl[e] abroad"? Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free School Dist., 508 U. S. 384, 398 (1993) (Scalia, J., concurring in judgment). There may be other contributing factors, but let me address two. First, it's hard not to wonder whether some simply prefer the policy outcomes Lemon can be manipulated to produce. Just dial down your hypothetical observer's concern with facts and history, dial up his inclination to offense, and the test is guaranteed to spit out results more hostile to religion than anything a careful inquiry into the original understanding of the Constitution could sustain. Lemon may promote an unserious, results-oriented approach to constitutional interpretation. But for some, that may be more a virtue than a vice.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:43 pm to
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The SC ruled 9-0, but they also stipulated that Boston would be okay to change the law so that this can be regulated. Boston will do just that to ensure this is no longer an issue moving forward.


I knew there was a catch to get the 3 lefties, and Roberts to sign on.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 2:43 pm
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