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re: Sumy Region is Rapidly Deteriorating for Ukraine
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:17 pm to John Barron
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:17 pm to John Barron
What is the deal with your affinity with bad guys. Putin just bombs the shite out of civilians. Not good. You should ask for God's grace.
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:22 pm to John Barron
I’ve been telling people this was coming.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:22 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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affinity with bad guys
I hate the bad guys. Victoria Nuland, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, etc. You know the ones who are responsible for this War.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:25 pm to FATBOY TIGER
I agree.
BUT Americans should begin preparations for facing our rogue CIA and State Departments that were also stolen in the election if that is what is taking place in Uke; hopefully they have been fully discovered and Americans are going after them; sort of like softening the underbelly for future moves
BUT Americans should begin preparations for facing our rogue CIA and State Departments that were also stolen in the election if that is what is taking place in Uke; hopefully they have been fully discovered and Americans are going after them; sort of like softening the underbelly for future moves
quote:goddam Bolsheviks
What a waste of tax dollars and life.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:27 pm to Darth_Vader
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I’ve been telling people this was coming.
I figured you would enjoy this post from a very pro Ukraine Twitter account. I am sure some will still say this is Russian propaganda
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If tweet fails to load, click here. "This may be difficult to accept, but when I first raised concerns about Ukraine’s offensive operations in the Kursk region, I correctly anticipated that it could ultimately lead to Russian forces retaking Kursk and then advancing gradually into Sumy Oblast, and eventually toward Dnipro.
In hindsight, the offensive has proven far more costly than a limited incursion or a strategic defense would have been. A short-term operation, lasting two to four weeks, aimed at creating a modest buffer zone inside Kursk might have preserved resources. Instead, the campaign has resulted in significantly higher losses in both personnel and equipment.
As of May 2025, Ukraine had lost 994 confirmed vehicles in Kursk Oblast, compared with 791 on the Russian side. To put that in perspective, on the Avdiivka–Pokrovsk front, Ukrainian losses stood at 679 vehicles versus 2,352 for Russia.
With Western military aid dwindling- U.S. support reduced for political reasons and Europe unable to supply adequate materiel, and Ukrainian forces struggling to replenish personnel, the scale of losses sustained in Kursk is nothing but a serious operational-strategic misjudgment at the senior level.
As I have pointed from the outset, Russia was ultimately able to concentrate sufficient forces to retake Kursk without significantly weakening its positions in Pokrovsk. Only very limited Russian units were redeployed from the Pokrovsk direction, while Ukraine shifted tens of thousands of troops, leaving that front undermanned and accelerating Russia’s gains there.
Unless the loss ratio begins to shift decisively in Ukraine’s favor, Russian forces are likely to continue advancing, both into Sumy Oblast and, gradually, toward Dnipro. Yet the Ukrainian military and political leadership at times appears more focused on performative media operations than on articulating a long-term strategic vision for the battlefield beyond few months"
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:29 pm to John Barron
What does NAFO mean? 
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:30 pm to John Barron
Yay, Russia. Slavic thugs…
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:30 pm to SloaneRanger
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It's hard to see them taking any of their lost territory back.
LMAO! It's hard to see? It's about as likely as Taiwan suddenly expanding into mainland China. FFS.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:34 pm to John Barron
You always conveniently leave out Yanukovich refusing to sign the EU integration deal after the Ukrainian parliament passed it. Yanukovich openly stated it was due to pressure from Russia.
Why is that Russian pressure into Ukrainian domestic politics not problematic for you?
Why is that Russian pressure into Ukrainian domestic politics not problematic for you?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:34 pm to Darth_Vader
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I’ve been telling people this was coming.
Trying to convince a Ukraine supporter that they're quickly hurling themselves into the final stages of FAFO is like trying to convince leftists that breaking into another country, by definition, makes said person a criminal. Their tiny Reddit & CNN-fueled minds just can't process the data.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:35 pm to John Barron
You don't give a shite that Ukraine has had half a million people killed? I heard today Russia may have had a million killed. And in some way you think Russia is the good guy? What's your preferred outcome here? And then what is the next step?
If we don't back NATO, Russia will take back the Baltics at a minimum.
I talking about putting away your disgust for the bad guys. What do you want to happen to Ukraine now? And Russia?
If we don't back NATO, Russia will take back the Baltics at a minimum.
I talking about putting away your disgust for the bad guys. What do you want to happen to Ukraine now? And Russia?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:41 pm to boosiebadazz
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You always conveniently leave out Yanukovich refusing to sign the EU integration deal after the Ukrainian parliament passed it. Yanukovich openly stated it was due to pressure from Russia.
Another BS Lie. It had everything to do with a terrible IMF Loan
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If tweet fails to load, click here. "In 2014, Ukraine needed a loan. There were two offers:
The World Bank (IMF) offered $15 billion with two conditions:
-Lift the ban on private sector land ownership.
-Cut pensions and fuel subsidies.
Russia also offered $15 billion, but WITHOUT the austerity and privatization requirement.
Ukrainian President Yanukovych decided to chose Russia's offer, so Washington instigated a coup, ousting Yanukovych.
The new Ukrainian government accepted the IMF loan and their conditions: austerity and privatization
Multinational consortia with US capital have already bought 1/3 of Ukraine's land....."
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:52 pm to John Barron
Lies and obfuscation. You always start your timeline in 2014 and not earlier. Why is that?
LINK
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As the summit in Vilnius approached, pressure from Russia was rising; this culminated with the introduction in mid-August of an embargo on goods entering from Ukraine. As a result, a significant part of Ukrainian exports to Russia were blocked for a week. In this way, Moscow sent Kyiv a warning signal, indicating that signing the Agreement with the EU would significantly limit the access of Ukrainian products to the Russian market (which amount to a third of total exports from Ukraine). It seems that this was the key moment that determined the Ukrainian government’s decision to revise its existing policy towards signing the Association Agreement.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:53 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I talking about putting away your disgust for the bad guys. What do you want to happen to Ukraine now? And Russia?
1. In order for the War to end Russia has to take all of Ukraine. Even if Trump was able to stop it temporarily, the Neocons and Deepstate will be right back at it again once they regain Power.
2. I prefer Russia taking all of Ukraine rather than a possible Nuclear War. Victoria Nuland and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Deepstate miscalculated badly. Russia gets Ukraine for that bad miscalculation and we have Peace. Russia is not going after the Baltics or any other NATO country.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:54 pm to John Barron
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1. In order for the War to end Russia has to take all of Ukraine. Even if Trump was able to stop it temporarily, the Neocons and Deepstate will be right back at it again once they regain Power.
2. I prefer Russia taking all of Ukraine rather than a possible Nuclear War. Victoria Nuland and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Deepstate miscalculated badly. Russia gets Ukraine for that bad miscalculation and we have Peace. Russia is not going after the Baltics or any other NATO country.
Laughable nonsense. They may get Ukraine, but they’re going to have to take it, not have it handed to them.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:58 pm to boosiebadazz
OSW= A Polish Think Tank
Are you going to address the Terms of the Terrible IMF Loan or just post a link that has nothing to do with the IMF Loan?
Are you going to address the Terms of the Terrible IMF Loan or just post a link that has nothing to do with the IMF Loan?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:59 pm to John Barron
Russians are fricked bro
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:00 pm to John Barron
Are you going to address anything that happened before 2014?
I notice you attacked the source rather than the facts presented.
I notice you attacked the source rather than the facts presented.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:04 pm to boosiebadazz
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Laughable nonsense. They may get Ukraine, but they’re going to have to take it, not have it handed to them.
Therein lies the problem, at least from the Ukrainian perspective. It appears increasingly likely Ukraine’s ability to prevent Russia from “take it” is rapidly evaporating.
I’m not quite ready to declare Ukraine’s position as bad as that of Germany in the fall of 1918 or Spring of 1945, but it’s not looking good.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:06 pm to Darth_Vader
And the day Ukrainian leadership declines our military and financial aid and agrees to surrender is the day we should stop sending it. Until then, if they can organize a force to fight, we should give them weapons to do so.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 9:07 pm
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