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re: Study: Same-Sex Parenting Harms Children

Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:52 am to
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:52 am to
No shite and good money was spent to make this finding. Who could have guessed?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:55 am to
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the majority of the kids, even in this very flawed study, still demonstrated average behaviors


Well the average person in this country is an absolute retard, so saying that the majority of kids with gay parents are average isn't much of an endorsement lol
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7657 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:56 am to
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If it's accepted that children raised in less ideal situations are more likely to be "messed up" in some way, why aren't we actively working to fight against those situations? I think it's because no one wants to sound homophobic by recognizing that having two mommies and two daddies is not as ideal as having one mommy and one daddy. Like the article said, what's better for the children is being ignored for the sake of the parents.


No it isn't because the two absolute worst case scenarios for a child growing up are one

1) being abused and that is not being ignored through the use of adoption or foster care and removing those kids from that environment

2) growing up without a family or in foster care.

there are over 100,000 kids that need adoption and that number has stayed consistent over the last decade. The fact is there aren't enough traditional families out there adopting kids for this to be a valid argument.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:20 am to
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No it isn't because the two absolute worst case scenarios for a child growing up are one

1) being abused and that is not being ignored through the use of adoption or foster care and removing those kids from that environment

2) growing up without a family or in foster care.

there are over 100,000 kids that need adoption and that number has stayed consistent over the last decade. The fact is there aren't enough traditional families out there adopting kids for this to be a valid argument.



You ignore the fact that having same sex parents IS mental abuse.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:34 am to
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What are you talking about bro? To be a natural parent it is required to have had sex with someone off the opposite sex. There is no other way.
OK? And homosexuals can engage on heterosexual sex if they wanted a child and that was the only way to create one. But since it's no longer necessary, given medical advancements, and many heterosexual couples use these other methods as well (whether by choice or necessity), your point doesn't make much sense.
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Well, I take that back there is one exception. Women using artificial insemination. BUt that is so rare as to not discount my original statement.
Sure. But the rates have given dramatically, and to about about 1.5% of total births in the US in a given year as of 2014.

IVF Baby Boom: Births From Fertility Procedures Hit New High
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Actually after rereading I think maybe you inferred that I mean "natural parent" to mean that gays couldn't naturally have the instincts to be a parent?
I should have read this first.

That's exactly what I thought. But like I said, unless biologically/physically incapable, any person could have a child via the natural method.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61454 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:37 am to
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I'm gay and I believe this to be true. But most children do not have 'the best environment.'
Of course. But all other things being equal, a home with a mother and a father is the best environment for child rearing. Those who value diversity should understand this better than anyone. A home with a mother and a father provides a diversity of parenting; ie a male and a female. Children benefit from this diversity of care.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35765 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:39 am to
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: the healthiest environment for a child is a home with a mother and a father.


The study also found that water is wet.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:40 am to
So it's unhealthy to be reared by a homosexual? Who'd a thunk it
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58353 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:42 am to
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So it's unhealthy to be reared by a homosexual? Who'd a thunk it


Yep. The child rearing is the hard part.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8564 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:45 am to


You do not need a study to tell you this.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:54 am to
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Well the average person in this country is an absolute retard


this was illustrated to me personally yesterday with the near zombie apocalypse created by the DFW gas shortage scare. unreal traffic was stopped at multiple major intersections.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46612 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:56 am to
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Study: Same-Sex Parenting Harms Children


Why did anyone have to study this abnormal parent/child relationship to know that children raised in this environment are going to have mental/psychological issue later in life?

This kinda of BS is what leads me to believe a nefarious force, (whether it's a spiritual evil or man's own folly), is dumbing down society at an alarming rate.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:00 pm to
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I should have read this first. That's exactly what I thought. But like I said, unless biologically/physically incapable, any person could have a child via the natural method.


of course a gay person could have sex with someone of the opposite sex if they wished, and they often do which proves my point that no one is "born gay" it's a choice. I don't know why liberals even bother trying to argue otherwise.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46612 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Of course its not optimal

now compare a child raised in stable, same sex home to a child raised in a divorced home, or a child raised by a single parent, or a child raised in a foster home


Totally agree! Children should be raised in a stable household comprised of a mother and father if possible. So basically we need more responsible heterosexuals raising children to stop this abomination.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:05 pm to
28 yr olds of every origin say hi.

Catholics do not have ax to grind.
Study of 20 couples is ideal stat. Plenty. Who picked them. How?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Why did anyone have to study this abnormal parent/child relationship to know that children raised in this environment are going to have mental/psychological issue later in life?
Well first, this study was too flawed to generalize it's results and conclusions, and even then, the study does not even support what you just stated. Greater risk of an outcome =/= outcome itself.

Second of all, people have to study issues, and provide evidence for them, because you can't truly know something unless it can be supported. That's how science and logic work.
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This kinda of BS is what leads me to believe a nefarious force, (whether it's a spiritual evil or man's own folly), is dumbing down society at an alarming rate.
Well your post is not evidence to the contrary because your post:

1. Showed that you didn't identify the obvious flaws on the study
2. Misinterpreted the results of the study
3. Questioned the use of basic logic and scientific process
4. Show that you didn't use basic logic to "know" this particular something
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Well first, this study was too flawed to generalize it's results and conclusions, and even then, the study does not even support what you just stated. Greater risk of an outcome =/= outcome itself.

Second of all, people have to study issues, and provide evidence for them, because you can't truly know something unless it can be supported. That's how science and logic work.

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This kinda of BS is what leads me to believe a nefarious force, (whether it's a spiritual evil or man's own folly), is dumbing down society at an alarming rate.

Well your post is not evidence to the contrary because your post:

1. Showed that you didn't identify the obvious flaws on the study
2. Misinterpreted the results of the study
3. Questioned the use of basic logic and scientific process
4. Show that you didn't use basic logic to "know" this particular somethin


LOL your posts boils down to "people shouldn't post when they don't even understand the topic and or aren't able to discuss it logically" which if we used that criteria would lead to essentially every message board on the internet just being shut down.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:18 pm to
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you're probably exhibit A for that claim ...


my folks are man and woman..they divorced when I was 12...they went on to have successful marriages with individuals of the opposite sex....not sure what you think you are accomplishing with your snarky, un-well thought out, inaccurate retort.


sure they are
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:24 pm to
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of course a gay person could have sex with someone of the opposite sex if they wished, and they often do which proves my point that no one is "born gay" it's a choice
1. Whether one is officially "born that way" or not, is not the same as choice or not. Genetics is just one component.

2. Sexuality is a PREFERENCE, and it's not solely a binary preference at that. Consensual Sexual intercourse is a behavior, which is a choice.

So while preferences predict behaviors, it is not perfectly correlated nor is it the only factor. So the behavior itself doesn't make the preference a choice.

While not a perfect comparison, I prefer pizza over broccoli, but I will choose broccoli if I want to eat healthy. That doesn't mean I prefer it over pizza.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53417 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:26 pm to
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buckeye_vol


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I prefer pizza


Yeah we know lol
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