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re: Study: Same-Sex Parenting Harms Children
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:52 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:52 am to RollTide1987
No shite and good money was spent to make this finding. Who could have guessed?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:55 am to Salmon
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the majority of the kids, even in this very flawed study, still demonstrated average behaviors
Well the average person in this country is an absolute retard, so saying that the majority of kids with gay parents are average isn't much of an endorsement lol
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:56 am to FooManChoo
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If it's accepted that children raised in less ideal situations are more likely to be "messed up" in some way, why aren't we actively working to fight against those situations? I think it's because no one wants to sound homophobic by recognizing that having two mommies and two daddies is not as ideal as having one mommy and one daddy. Like the article said, what's better for the children is being ignored for the sake of the parents.
No it isn't because the two absolute worst case scenarios for a child growing up are one
1) being abused and that is not being ignored through the use of adoption or foster care and removing those kids from that environment
2) growing up without a family or in foster care.
there are over 100,000 kids that need adoption and that number has stayed consistent over the last decade. The fact is there aren't enough traditional families out there adopting kids for this to be a valid argument.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:20 am to mindbreaker
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No it isn't because the two absolute worst case scenarios for a child growing up are one
1) being abused and that is not being ignored through the use of adoption or foster care and removing those kids from that environment
2) growing up without a family or in foster care.
there are over 100,000 kids that need adoption and that number has stayed consistent over the last decade. The fact is there aren't enough traditional families out there adopting kids for this to be a valid argument.
You ignore the fact that having same sex parents IS mental abuse.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:34 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:OK? And homosexuals can engage on heterosexual sex if they wanted a child and that was the only way to create one. But since it's no longer necessary, given medical advancements, and many heterosexual couples use these other methods as well (whether by choice or necessity), your point doesn't make much sense.
What are you talking about bro? To be a natural parent it is required to have had sex with someone off the opposite sex. There is no other way.
quote:Sure. But the rates have given dramatically, and to about about 1.5% of total births in the US in a given year as of 2014.
Well, I take that back there is one exception. Women using artificial insemination. BUt that is so rare as to not discount my original statement.
IVF Baby Boom: Births From Fertility Procedures Hit New High
quote:I should have read this first.
Actually after rereading I think maybe you inferred that I mean "natural parent" to mean that gays couldn't naturally have the instincts to be a parent?
That's exactly what I thought. But like I said, unless biologically/physically incapable, any person could have a child via the natural method.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:37 am to monceaux
quote:Of course. But all other things being equal, a home with a mother and a father is the best environment for child rearing. Those who value diversity should understand this better than anyone. A home with a mother and a father provides a diversity of parenting; ie a male and a female. Children benefit from this diversity of care.
I'm gay and I believe this to be true. But most children do not have 'the best environment.'
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:39 am to RollTide1987
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: the healthiest environment for a child is a home with a mother and a father.
The study also found that water is wet.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:40 am to RollTide1987
So it's unhealthy to be reared by a homosexual? Who'd a thunk it
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:42 am to texashorn
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So it's unhealthy to be reared by a homosexual? Who'd a thunk it
Yep. The child rearing is the hard part.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:45 am to RollTide1987
You do not need a study to tell you this.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:54 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Well the average person in this country is an absolute retard
this was illustrated to me personally yesterday with the near zombie apocalypse created by the DFW gas shortage scare. unreal traffic was stopped at multiple major intersections.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:56 am to RollTide1987
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Study: Same-Sex Parenting Harms Children
Why did anyone have to study this abnormal parent/child relationship to know that children raised in this environment are going to have mental/psychological issue later in life?
This kinda of BS is what leads me to believe a nefarious force, (whether it's a spiritual evil or man's own folly), is dumbing down society at an alarming rate.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:00 pm to buckeye_vol
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I should have read this first. That's exactly what I thought. But like I said, unless biologically/physically incapable, any person could have a child via the natural method.
of course a gay person could have sex with someone of the opposite sex if they wished, and they often do which proves my point that no one is "born gay" it's a choice. I don't know why liberals even bother trying to argue otherwise.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:00 pm to Salmon
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Of course its not optimal
now compare a child raised in stable, same sex home to a child raised in a divorced home, or a child raised by a single parent, or a child raised in a foster home
Totally agree! Children should be raised in a stable household comprised of a mother and father if possible. So basically we need more responsible heterosexuals raising children to stop this abomination.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:05 pm to tiger1014
28 yr olds of every origin say hi.
Catholics do not have ax to grind.
Study of 20 couples is ideal stat. Plenty. Who picked them. How?
Catholics do not have ax to grind.
Study of 20 couples is ideal stat. Plenty. Who picked them. How?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:08 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Well first, this study was too flawed to generalize it's results and conclusions, and even then, the study does not even support what you just stated. Greater risk of an outcome =/= outcome itself.
Why did anyone have to study this abnormal parent/child relationship to know that children raised in this environment are going to have mental/psychological issue later in life?
Second of all, people have to study issues, and provide evidence for them, because you can't truly know something unless it can be supported. That's how science and logic work.
quote:Well your post is not evidence to the contrary because your post:
This kinda of BS is what leads me to believe a nefarious force, (whether it's a spiritual evil or man's own folly), is dumbing down society at an alarming rate.
1. Showed that you didn't identify the obvious flaws on the study
2. Misinterpreted the results of the study
3. Questioned the use of basic logic and scientific process
4. Show that you didn't use basic logic to "know" this particular something
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:16 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well first, this study was too flawed to generalize it's results and conclusions, and even then, the study does not even support what you just stated. Greater risk of an outcome =/= outcome itself.
Second of all, people have to study issues, and provide evidence for them, because you can't truly know something unless it can be supported. That's how science and logic work.
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This kinda of BS is what leads me to believe a nefarious force, (whether it's a spiritual evil or man's own folly), is dumbing down society at an alarming rate.
Well your post is not evidence to the contrary because your post:
1. Showed that you didn't identify the obvious flaws on the study
2. Misinterpreted the results of the study
3. Questioned the use of basic logic and scientific process
4. Show that you didn't use basic logic to "know" this particular somethin
LOL your posts boils down to "people shouldn't post when they don't even understand the topic and or aren't able to discuss it logically" which if we used that criteria would lead to essentially every message board on the internet just being shut down.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:18 pm to SthGADawg
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you're probably exhibit A for that claim ...
my folks are man and woman..they divorced when I was 12...they went on to have successful marriages with individuals of the opposite sex....not sure what you think you are accomplishing with your snarky, un-well thought out, inaccurate retort.
sure they are
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:24 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:1. Whether one is officially "born that way" or not, is not the same as choice or not. Genetics is just one component.
of course a gay person could have sex with someone of the opposite sex if they wished, and they often do which proves my point that no one is "born gay" it's a choice
2. Sexuality is a PREFERENCE, and it's not solely a binary preference at that. Consensual Sexual intercourse is a behavior, which is a choice.
So while preferences predict behaviors, it is not perfectly correlated nor is it the only factor. So the behavior itself doesn't make the preference a choice.
While not a perfect comparison, I prefer pizza over broccoli, but I will choose broccoli if I want to eat healthy. That doesn't mean I prefer it over pizza.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:26 pm to buckeye_vol
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buckeye_vol
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I prefer pizza
Yeah we know lol
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