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re: Strong on Second Amendment, Strongly Pro Choice
Posted on 8/24/19 at 5:39 pm to hubertcumberdale
Posted on 8/24/19 at 5:39 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Do you plan on taking care of all the parent-less kids? Who will have to ultimately bear that burden? Spoiler alert: all of us that pay taxes.
So you’d be okay with shitty parents killing their toddlers if they couldn’t afford to care for them.
Obviously shitty, lower class people have the bulk of abortions which is a net fiscal benefit to society. But does that make it morally acceptable?
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Posted on 8/24/19 at 5:49 pm to Nguyener
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fetus before it is viable is not a human being.
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Define fetus
Define viability
Define human being
Define baby. Define human being. You used those terms first.
Then the viable part will be easy.
EDIT: I'll go first. Viability, as the word has been used in U.S. constitutional law since Roe v. Wade, is the potential ability of a fetus to survive outside the uterus after birth, natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:02 pm to Antonio Moss
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lower class people have the bulk of abortions
Give "Right to Life" a chance!
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:05 pm to texridder
quote:Troll
Says the person who is so dishonest that he edited that post when he responded to it.
Classic projection.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:21 pm to texridder
Why I dont see yo edit time stamp? What's your secret?
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:21 pm to omegaman66
I'm patient. I'll keep waiting.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 6:22 pm to Antonio Moss
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So you’d be okay with shitty parents killing their toddlers if they couldn’t afford to care for them.
This idiotic comparison won't get better with time.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:06 pm to davyjones
quote:Don't know. Seems like it was 10-20 minutes after original post.
Why I dont see yo edit time stamp? What's your secret?
I'll let you know if I find out.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:09 pm to baybeefeetz
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frick losing my rights
Killing isn't a right, though..unless it's coming right for you...
Babies go the other way
Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:13 pm to ShortyRob
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Troll
Weasel with a tinge of dumbasse.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:28 pm to Texas Weazel
quote:Not so.
A healthy fetus is always viable.
A fetus is viable at a point where is has the potential ability to survive outside the uterus after birth, natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine.
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The issue is when life begins
The issue is when the fetus becomes viable.
The issue is when life begins only in Sunday School.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 8:10 pm to texridder
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The issue is when the fetus becomes viable.
The issue is when life begins only in Sunday School.
Little observation here: as is the case with most legal and political debate topics these days, the interchangeable use of all sorts of terms and phrases key to these conversations are used in different ways and situations from person to person. Oftentimes we're on the same page with different terms, sometimes we aren't. And sometimes I think it sideteacks us. In the abortion realm, terms like life, viability, baby, capability, etc are used in such a way.....it would be helpful if we were all to be on the exact same page so unintended disagreement could be avoided. I see it a lot here, generally speaking. Of course there are clear improper uses sometimes, but it really depends on the intent of the user.
Maybe a glossary of terms would cut through the unnecessary extra complication.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 8:14 pm to baybeefeetz
So in case the child survives the abortion, you can shoot her/him?
Posted on 8/24/19 at 8:15 pm to baybeefeetz
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Maybe I should re-think that
Maybe your parents should.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 9:05 pm to FATBOY TIGER
Ooooooooooooh
frick you
frick you
Posted on 8/24/19 at 10:56 pm to texridder
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A fetus is viable at a point where is has the potential ability to survive outside the uterus after birth,
You completely missed my point. All healthy fetuses inside the womb are viable. That's just a fact.
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natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine.
A naturally born, healthy baby can't survive on its own without the assistance of another human. Should we be allowed to kill them??
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 11:07 pm to Texas Weazel
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A naturally born, healthy baby can't survive on its own without the assistance of another human. Should we be allowed to kill them??
Someone should probably explain the difference to you.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 11:32 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Someone should probably explain the difference to you.
This is one of the main arguments used for abortion. I'm just showing you how flawed it is.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 11:36 pm to Texas Weazel
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I'm just showing you how flawed it is.
The comparison is flawed. And irrelevant.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 12:51 am to Texas Weazel
quote:Your problem is you don't know what viable means. Did you read what I posted??
You completely missed my point. All healthy fetuses inside the womb are viable. That's just a fact.
Viable is the point in the pregnancy when the fetus has the ability to survive outside the uterus assuming there was was a birth at that time.
Usually that is somewhere around 23-24 weeks.
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