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re: Stephen Miller- administration considering suspending habeas corpus

Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:37 am to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:37 am to
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Says the person trying to invalidate our entire legal system


Beating truth at a brick wall of stupid is so tiring.

The courts legitimacy is a function of their work product.

The system invalidates itself, regardless of my efforts.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:46 am to
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Slow thinks I'm some radical for trashing the legitimacy of our court system. A perfect example of his separation from reality.

quote:

While confidence in U.S. courts is at its record low, it is still higher than what Gallup has previously measured in places such as Venezuela in 2016 (16%), Democratic Republic of Congo in 2013 (22%) or Syria in 2013 (25%).



Look at the shitholes you have to find comparison for the level of legitimacy of our court system.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:52 am to
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I'm some radical for trashing the legitimacy of our court system.


When you elevate any system to an almost religious reverence the discussion becomes one about beliefs rather than facts.

The high priests have not declared an invasion.

Therefore there is no invasion.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:58 am to
You do realize that even Trump appointed judges have ruled against the Administration, right…


Were they abducted and brainwashed by the “Deep State”? lol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:00 am to
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Look at the shitholes you have to find comparison for the level of legitimacy of our court system.


We're in a period of mass expansion of emotional thinking and shedding rationality, correct.

That's why you see so many of those types ITT supporting tyranny. For those who don't understand the bigger picture, that's the entire point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:00 am to
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When you elevate any system to an almost religious reverence


Strawman
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:07 am to
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When you elevate any system to an almost religious reverence the discussion becomes one about beliefs rather than facts.

The high priests have not declared an invasion.

Therefore there is no invasion.

Dude, I respect you as a poster, but this is thick with irony.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67354 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:13 am to
Trump’s use of the term “invasion” twists the AEA like a fricking pretzel, and the court knows it.

If I thought their were millions of murderous Latino
gang members wandering our streets, I’d have a different opinion. But that’s a fiction. There are some bad guys around, no doubt, but nothing like the administration would have you believe.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:28 am to
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Trump’s use of the term “invasion” twists the AEA like a fricking pretzel, and the court knows it.


Millions of ppl entering our country illegally is an invasion dummy
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:42 am to
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Strawman


"The courts have decided there is no invasion."


Argument to authority.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465368 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:04 am to
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"The courts have decided there is no invasion."


Argument to authority.

No

That is literally their role in our constitutional system.

Or are we discussing fantasy and not our actual government? I thought we were discussing our actual government.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:06 am to
You’ve already admitted in the past you wouldn’t want an illegal in your neighborhood but it’s okay for millions to come in.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33344 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:10 am to
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a. You're ignoring that I addressed the "Trump will use the term invasion" point directly. Dishonesty.

No, I didnt ignore it, I laughed at it. The dishonesty is all yours. Pretending that Grant didnt use the term rebellion to mask his obvious work-around in regards to a lack of judicial support for local law enforcement

So I guess I do need to define the word rebellion for you, You seem incapable of grasping reality, at this point
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rebellion - violent action organized by a group of people who are trying to change the political system in their country

How was not bringing the Klan to justice in a few counties, a rebellion against the entire federal government? Yeah, it wasnt. But thats your dishonest take

By 1871 the actual rebellion had been put down. The Klan was nothing more than a criminal organization, similar to the mafia. No one was using arms against the federal govt, therefore putting down a rebellion wasnt happening. Yet Grant claimed it was

Just as your bizarre notion that 20M foreigners in a country cant be viewed as an invasion. There are only 3 US states that have populations that large. And a couple of those might not reach 20M, if all illegals were removed
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:11 am to
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That is literally their role in our constitutional system.



Very good.

And what is the purpose of our constitutional system?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465368 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:18 am to
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You’ve already admitted in the past you wouldn’t want an illegal in your neighborhood but it’s okay for millions to come in.


I've never said it's okay for millions to come in

I've only argued that removing them has to follow our laws and Constitution
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465368 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:18 am to
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And what is the purpose of our constitutional system?

To intentionally limit government and disperse its power along with the threat of democracy and the factions referenced in Federalists 9 and 10
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 10:19 am
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:20 am to
It is not the role of the Judiciary to decide whether or not we are under invasion
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:21 am to
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but this is thick with irony.


Why?

Are we supposed to believe the judges and ignore our eyes when we saw wave upon wave of thousands coming in day after day for years?
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:24 am to
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It is not the role of the Judiciary to decide whether or not we are under invasion

It is totally clear that immigration is being used for 'invasion.

It is time for the invasion to be ceased - and any judiciary involved to act, or not, accordingly because large swathes of the judiciary is also an invasion

perpetrated by the same forces
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