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re: Steele relied on claims posted by a random person on CNN website to "verify" dossier

Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Yet it was used to support the dossier.


How do you suggest this 2009 article was used for anything other than providing background info on Webzilla? It doesn't appear from the transcript excerpts published so far that they went that far into it during the depositions.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:47 pm to
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How do you suggest this 2009 article was used for anything other than providing background info on Webzilla? It doesn't appear from the transcript excerpts published so far that they went that far into it during the depositions.


So your assertion is that Steele did not use unverified information in the dossier?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:56 pm to
He often used human sources for information. Of course there is much within the several reports that cannot be verified, some of it apparently not true. Steele said himself much of it needed further verification.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:59 pm to
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there is much within the several reports that cannot be verified, some of it apparently not true. Steele said himself much of it needed further verification.


Does the woods procedure require verification?
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:01 pm to
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Of course there is much within the several reports that cannot be verified, some of it apparently not true. Steele said himself much of it needed further verification.

So it wasn't verified. Why did Comey, Yates, Rod etc. sign their names swearing that everything was verified and accurate?

This is the last time I will ask this question. It's clear you don't understand what's going on here
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:42 pm to
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I think

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would suggest
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The Woods file would have been attached to the applications and available for the judges to review. If they had a problem with it I sure they could have brought it up at the time
Only as good as the bullshite your heroes put in or magically omitted, but you knew that already.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:44 pm to
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some of it apparently not true.
Yeah you are an intel troop.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:45 pm to
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Does the woods procedure require verification?
Recatur dgaf about that, you know it, I know it and so does Rexcatur.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:46 pm to
Did Steele not tell the FBI what they say he told them? It was Steele's statements that were presented in the applications. The SSA verified that Steele provided this information. All four judges considered this and other unknown information in support of granting the applications. It really seems to be a closed case on the issue IMO.

That the applications were renewed should tell you they were getting the type of information that they were seeking, at least enough to renew the surveillance three times.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:48 pm to
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other unknown information in support of granting the applications. It really seems to be a closed case on the issue IMO.

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That the applications were renewed should tell you they were getting the type of information that they were seeking, at least enough to renew the surveillance three times.
bullshite.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:59 pm to
You're the type of Intel troop we loved. You are the guy that briefed us prior to missions. You were kick arse at telling me the conversion rate of the currency, the type of government and the weather for the next ten days, but oddly would omit we were landing on the 25th anniversary of the attempted violent overthrow of the government, sweet seeing smoke and flames all over the city you are landing at, only to find out you will spend the night in a hangar for protection.

Intel troops are the bestest at being obtuse.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:14 pm to
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That the applications were renewed should tell you they were getting the type of information that they were seeking, at least enough to renew the surveillance three times.


If the woods procedure were followed then the information was presented as verified. If the judge signed based upon misinformation the warrants will likely be illegal. So...were the woods procedures followed?

You know the answer. Your obfuscation is quite telling. You are fully aware of the issues with the warrant application. You just don’t care.
Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:20 pm to
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It was Steele's statements that were presented in the applications.

Actually they omitted Steele's statement where he told Ohr he was "desperate that Trump not get elected"

That statement was unfortunately withheld from the applications
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:23 pm to
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You're the type of Intel troop we loved. You are the guy that briefed us prior to missions.


JBird people might start taking your posts seriously. Stahp.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:43 pm to
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If the woods procedure were followed then the information was presented as verified.


I don't think there's an allegation here that the Steele told the FBI something different than they say he told them. Any judge in this position would know the nature of the information provided and could make their decision based upon what was presented to them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:59 pm to
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don't think there's an allegation here that the Steele told the FBI something different than they say he told them.

Is that the requirement of the woods procedure? Or is the requirement verification?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Did Steele not tell the FBI what they say he told them? It was Steele's statements that were presented in the applications. The SSA verified that Steele provided this information. All four judges considered this and other unknown information in support of granting the applications. It really seems to be a closed case on the issue IMO. That the applications were renewed should tell you they were getting the type of information that they were seeking, at least enough to renew the surveillance three times.


My number one regret in life this moment is that I don’t have the authority to identify your arse and put you in a work camp. You’re a piece of shite and an enemy of a free nation.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 5:18 pm to
Seems to me they make sure that what they are telling the court about their source's statements is what their source told them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 5:53 pm to
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Seems to me they make sure that what they are telling the court about their source's statements is what their source told them.


Wasn’t my question. It is a simple one. Do the Woods procedures require verification?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32765 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 6:10 pm to
The procedures require that a draft application be reviewed for accuracy. The SSA ultimately verifies the application.
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