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re: ST. George WINS Incorporation is a reality!
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:12 am to Lickitty Split
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:12 am to Lickitty Split
Was it Furr or the other attorney whose stock response when someone brought up precedent before the SC “But no one cares about Central / Abita Springs / wherever!”?
Your legal argument being “frick you, we are more important than everyone!” ain’t gonna end well even after the case.
Your legal argument being “frick you, we are more important than everyone!” ain’t gonna end well even after the case.
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:30 am to pwejr88
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Tell Ms Broome when you go to work Monday, she brought this on herself.
SWB and Pat Smith are to blame for this. All St. G wanted was an independent school district, not a new city.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:49 am to teke184
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Was it Furr or the other attorney whose stock response when someone brought up precedent before the SC “But no one cares about Central / Abita Springs / wherever!”?
Your legal argument being “frick you, we are more important than everyone!” ain’t gonna end well even after the case.
It was Furr
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:52 am to udtiger
I have a feeling that a lot of attorneys and judges are going to have fun making his life miserable whenever he has a weak case.
Representing a party isn’t necessarily a problem but how you handle yourself while doing it is one.
Representing a party isn’t necessarily a problem but how you handle yourself while doing it is one.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:55 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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SWB and Pat Smith are to blame for this. All St. G wanted was an independent school district, not a new city.
Yep.
The financial frickery of EBR against the unincorporated areas would not have been highlighted if EBRPSS hadn’t refused to even consider reform or if the Black Caucus hadn’t killed the funding of St. George ISD by saying “Maybe a city would help.”
They tried to keep a whole smaller pie for itself and not only lost that but several bigger pies in the process.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 7:57 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:00 am to tommy2tone1999
Good for them. 21st century tribalism. Cut as much away from these shithole metro dumpster fire cities as possible. I hope this takes off across the entire USA.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:03 am to 4cubbies
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I thought schools were half the reason SG wanted to incorporate? Soon they’ll be fighting to stay in BR schools. Yeesh.
Negative ghost rider. EBRSS will have to turn over all the schools to St. George. This is where Central screwed up. EBRSS was slated to replace Central Middle. Once word got out that Central was trying to break away, EBRSS paused the project. Central got pennies on the dollar. If they would have let EBRSS build the school then become a city and school system, then a tax wouldn't have been required to build the new school. All public schools in the school district will have to be turned over to the new system. Now the DOJ will be involved in the school district limits. When SJ gets its own school system, the limits may go outside the city limits. There is a portion of Central school system that extends along Hooper to Foster. Idiots in Montecello and Shamrock Gardens screwed up because they were offered to be part of Central School system to show good faith of the discrimination lawsuit but decided not to join. Many don't realize GS Rd from Comite River to Sherwood Forest is Parish and not City of Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 10:12 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:07 am to tommy2tone1999
Serious question: what happens to the areas the SWB annexed into the city of Baton Rouge after the vote took place?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:09 am to LSUDAN1
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EBR will have to turn over all the schools to St. George. This is where Central screwed up. EBR was slated to replace Central Middle. Once word got out that Central was trying to break away, EBR paused the project. Central got pennies on the dollar. If they would have let EBR build the school then become a city and school system, then a tax wouldn't have been required to build the new school.
It doesn’t make sense that a parish would have to “turn over” or surrender its assets to a new city that formed after the assets were established. Seems like EBR could lease or sell the buildings to St. George similarly to how the Archdiocese and NOLA-PS leases and sells its buildings to charter schools.
Edit: I appreciate the downvotes but they’d be more compelling if someone offered any sort of counterpoint or argument.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:11 am to ItNeverRains
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Good for them. 21st century tribalism. Cut as much away from these shithole metro dumpster fire cities as possible. I hope this takes off across the entire USA.
Nobody forced anyone to purchase a house in EBR parish last time I checked. These people choose to purchase a large investment in EBR parish then decided they didn’t want to live in BR anymore. It is what it is, but they all knew what they were getting into when they bought their homes where they did.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:17 am to Epic Cajun
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4-3
Justice Crichton is one of the three in dissent. I respect his levelheadedness way more than that of some of the justices in the majority, but in this case he is wrong. The problem with his opinion is he leaves people without hope or remedy for the mess to which they find themselves held hostage.
The only solution he offers to anyone with sense who wants better for themselves and their families is to abandon B.R. That is a problem that feeds on itself and makes B.R. and any other city in that predicament destined for chaos and then death. Think Lake Providence on a larger scale.
St. George offers a solution short of that disaster. Baton Rouge remains viable, maybe through its nearby bedroom community, but some of it thrives and offers people a future.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 9:19 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:20 am to Topcat
Noticeably less beggars out this morning.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:29 am to tommy2tone1999
What kind of weird city is it where the white people live in the south east?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:33 am to 4cubbies
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It doesn’t make sense that a parish would have to “turn over” or surrender its assets to a new city that formed after the assets were established.
Think about what you are saying. Is Baton Rouge the entity that owns things or is it its citizens? The former B.R., now St. George, citizens paid for the assets and will receive nothing for free.
This philosophy, that a government is a person, is pernicious. The origin of government is the beneficial banding together of people to share common burdens. Here, B.R. no longer serves that purpose and it is time to unband--leave.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:38 am to 4cubbies
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These people choose to purchase a large investment in EBR parish then decided they didn’t want to live in BR anymore.
Cubbies, St. George residents remain in East Baton Rouge Parish.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:39 am to Topcat
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Cubbies, St, George residents remain in East Baton Rouge Parish.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:41 am to 4cubbies
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It doesn’t make sense that a parish would have to “turn over” or surrender its assets to a new city that formed after the assets were established. Seems like EBR could lease or sell the buildings to St. George similarly to how the Archdiocese and NOLA-PS leases and sells its buildings to charter schools.
Admittedly, I am no expert on these things. But St. George is a city within EBR Parish. The Parish is not losing anything; it is just giving control to the city of SG. The losers are EBRPSS, which both 1) refused to make any significant investments in the SG area for decades and 2) the buildings they have renovated and property "they" purchased in that area are now run by SG. I quote "they" because it was largely taxpayer money from the SG area of the parish.
For decades, EBRPSS has benefitted immensely from taxes from the unincorporated parts of EBR Parish. It has used that money to prop up failing schools in Baton Rouge and bus those who choose to attend public school all over the parish to help improve academic scores. This is the heart of the issue. Of course, it became so much more as time went on.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:49 am to Tony The Tiger
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Admittedly, I am no expert on these things. But St. George is a city within EBR Parish. The Parish is not losing anything; it is just giving control to the city of SG. The losers are EBRPSS,
I get this but if EBR or EBRPSS built the schools for EBRPSS, it doesn’t seem like they would immediately transfer to SGPSS (once formed). But I’m not an expert either.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:50 am to Topcat
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Cubbies, St. George residents remain in East Baton Rouge Parish.
So will the remain in EBRPSS indefinitely? I’m under the impression that this whole thing started because St. George wanted to form it’s own school system.
Who owns the buildings, the parish or school system?
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:52 am to 4cubbies
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Who owns the buildings, the parish or school system?
School system, but a huge part of the problem was that an inordinate amount of the buildings for EBRPSS were in BR and not in St George.
Only HS in the area is Woodlawn. Not a lot of middle schools or elementary schools in there either.
Wanting a new HS in St George was part of what started this, as they were told “Go form your own school system.”
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