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re: Special counsel rejects dismissal of Hunter Biden case
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:37 am to Jasharts77
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:37 am to Jasharts77
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So if he wasn't ever charged how can he get a pardon?
That was my question as well. While I was researching the presidential pardons, I found out that yeah. A pres. pardon can do it.
Doesn't seem like justice, to me. But it's there.
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:41 am to hawgfaninc
I thought one of the legacies of Nixon and Watergate that a pardon carries with it the implication of guilt. Unless I’m wrong a pardon does not erase the actions taken that require pardoning.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:44 am to AUFANATL
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Pardons (and commutations) are an act of forgiveness, not erasure. Expungements are the legal mechanism to wipe away someone's criminal record but they are usually only applied to dismissals and very rarely to cases where a defendant has pled guilty or been convicted absent special circumstances (like a witness admits they made the charges up).
Expungements. My mind slipped on that one.
Thanks much for this post. It answers a question that I had asked earlier in the thread.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:58 am to KingOrange
quote:Now the true judge & Jury-The media will SCREAM that David Weiss IS A REPUBLICAN.
Deep State on Deep State fighting. Interesting
When we all know he and the local DC henchmen obeyed Monoco, Eric Holder, and Garland in the past when the FBI had the authenticated Hunter laptop in 2019.
It is such bullshite. This will turn out to be the Biden WH lawyers and Hunter's Hollywood lawyer, didn't dot an "i" in a filing for clemency blah blah blah...
But before this "proper" filing, (You know Eric Holder is on the phone now with Weiss giving orders) the media is given permission to scream MUH REPUBLICAN won't let Hunter off, it's muh politics.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:01 am to Wolfwireless
Hurr declared Biden guilty of improper classified documents and he was not mentally fit for trial.
Yet, Biden never resigned...
Yet, Biden never resigned...
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:18 am to Houag80
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If tweet fails to load, click here. It will take the media 8 hours to say Weiss is a REPUBLICAN it's political.
And justlikethat the headline changes.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:48 am to Bunk Moreland
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I agree. This is fake fighting to act like the machine is still being tough on the Biden family.
Or is it a planned rejection to have a ruling on the effectiveness/legitimacy of the pardon while Biden's people are still in office/control?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:16 pm to Wolfwireless
quote:that's why you challenge it and appeal it up to eventually the supreme court. It's a balance of power issue, unrestricted presidential pardons infringe on the role of the judiciary. Are there any limits to a presidential pardon m. Can a president pardon himself and his family for future crimes, if he can pardon his family for past undetected crimes going back indefinitely? This pardon brings up a lot of questions that need to be hashed out.
read about the pardon going back so far. And so I did some research on if a presidential pardon could be overturned.
What I found was NOT good news.
I was looking for any little chink in it that I could find.
I wish there was a way to fight it. I really wish there was some way.
But unfortunately for us, right now, the only way to overturn a presidential pardon is if the president doesn't deliver the pardon.
And we can be darn sure that Biden will deliver it.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 6:42 pm to hawgfaninc
any change or update in this?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:31 pm to hawgfaninc
Here's the official response for reasoning as to why the Grand Jury indictment should not/will not be stricken. It's a bit of a read, but it explains the case quite clearly. Maybe SFP can comment a bit on this. I'd be willing to listen to his take.
Governmetnt's Opposition to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss the Indictment
Governmetnt's Opposition to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss the Indictment
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:06 pm to narddogg81
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that's why you challenge it and appeal it up to eventually the supreme court. It's a balance of power issue, unrestricted presidential pardons infringe on the role of the judiciary. Are there any limits to a presidential pardon m. Can a president pardon himself and his family for future crimes, if he can pardon his family for past undetected crimes going back indefinitely? This pardon brings up a lot of questions that need to be hashed out
This raises the very interesting question of whether the supreme court could limit the powers of the commander in chief.
This isn't like the immunity case, where they broadened it.
I'm thinking, and please correct me if I'm wrong... That it would take the house to create the law. And we all know a dim pres wouldn't sign it.
Because they're the ones showing how they will abuse the system. And going further and farther to testing the limits.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:35 pm to hawgfaninc
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