re: Spanish Government opens fire at crowds in Ceuta

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Guns didn’t stop the 30 to 40 million Illegal Immigrants we have here in our country either.

This is what gets me about people wanting to criticize Europe and Britain when we're doing exactly the same thing here.

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When the government is willing to use its guns against its own citizens and jail those who would use their own guns to defend their own borders, its not so simple of a choice for each citizen to make. The illegal invaders come in under the willing protection of the government because of the threat of prosecution the government poses to its citizens for doing what would otherwise be the government’s responsibility.

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When the government is willing to use its guns against its own citizens and jail those who would use their own guns to defend their own borders

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You understand this was one of the reasons The Founders established the 2nd amendment? Yet, people here do nothing but whine and complain on message boards which isn't anything different than the Euros are doing and they have no guns.

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Big difference in rubber bullets and regular bullets.

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He didn’t say either, you assumed.

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The only thing stopping it right now is the lack of guns.

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