re: Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

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Single payer didnt work in Cali it was gonna cost the state 400bil they tried and failed

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It's working pretty well in Canada. Methinks you do not understand what single-payer is.

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explain to me how it works for our entire nation, how the amount of ppl wont matter and who is gonna pay for it

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Do you think medical costs would go up if we just took Insurance out of the hands of people making a profit and transferred it to the public? If so please explain how

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39mil ppl in Canda vs 325mil ppl US

You are a moron and didnt answer any of my questions and went right to the libtard deflection. Clown

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Again you haven't provided any reason why the number of people make such a huge difference. Each of those parts of the country has communities and cities just like all of those other places. You were trying to make it sound like the federal government would have to be running all around the country and can't possibly do it because they would be spread too thin. It's just not the case. Every part of the country has its own smaller government that could be capable of sharing the load.

Obviously we would have to have a tax specifically for Single Payer. You already pay for Obamacare.

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I don't see how removing insurance company profits puts us in a worse position. I think it takes some mental gymnastics to really be afraid of single-payer

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Because savings from removing insurance company profits will be offset probably 5 fold by the increase in costs due to inefficiency, waste, and corruption in a government run healthcare system.

Give me one example of govnerment running an industry more efficiently than the private sector

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That's all well and good but I would just like to see the elimination of insurance companies in most cases

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I hate insurance companies as much as the next person, but to replace insurance companies with another 3rd party payer (in this case the government in a single payer model) is an asinine idea.

Now if you want to replace insurance companies with more of a fee for service model where patients have less reliance on insurance and more stake in the game then I think that’s a good idea.

Basically I think insurance should be for emergencies, catastrophes, surgeries, and hospitalizations. Everything else should be pay per visit and services.

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How SPECIFICALLY does government run healthcare more efficiently than private insurance companies?

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Ask Canada.

Or look it up yourself instead of regurgitating some old BS sold to you by the exact people exploiting you.

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Have any of you actually looked at Scandinavia's income tax rate? Sales tax rate?

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Ebbandflow is very low iq. Thats why she is all bark no bite like all libs

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Ask Canada.
Or look it up yourself instead of regurgitating some old BS sold to you by the exact people exploiting you.

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Your example of Canada is just pathetic. It’s hilarious that you would make such a poor argument but act so intelligent that you don’t have time for someone like me.

First, I didn’t think I had to explain that I want an example of the United States government. But I do. You can’t compare us to Canada, and if you really want to we need to have a conversation about wait times, health tourism, and prescription drug prices.

Second, you have no evidence that a private healthcare system couldn’t run Canada’s system more efficiently. The burden of proof is on you to prove that since government is more inefficient in literally every sector in history.

Ok let me explain it to you like you are 5 because you don’t seem to understand basic logic.

even if we assume (and this is a huge assumption which you can’t prove but obviously think you can) that Canada has a better healthcare system than the US, that doesn’t answer my question or prove anything

I asked to give me an example of government running a sector more efficiently than private companies.

You can’t compare Canada (government system) to US (private/government). That’s apples and oranges.

You could compare Canada (private) to Canada (government) or US (private) to US (government). That would work. But I’m guessing you don’t have that data.

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Second, you have no evidence that a private healthcare system couldn’t run Canada’s system more efficiently.


Sure I do. The United States.

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On what are you judging this?

Because the US has better survival rates for basically every major killer of human beings: Cancer, infectious disease, traumatic injury, etc. and was rated higher than Canada in healthcare responsiveness, which is defined as the desired outcome of the treatment.