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re: Soccer players now wondering whether on field heart problems are vax related

Posted on 1/22/22 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13232 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 3:46 pm to
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Vaccine = reduced contraction/transmission.

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CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said that Covid-19 vaccines are no longer effective at preventing transmission of the virus.

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"...what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission. So if you're going home to somebody who has not been vaccinated, somebody who can't get vaccinated... I would suggest you wear a mask in a public indoor setting," Walensky stated.


Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27180 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

1. Vaccine = reduced contraction/transmission.

2. Vaccine = lessened illness severity.

3. Vaccine = less death.


1. Nope not any more.
2 & 3. Originally for only a few month then you are worse off. Helps for 6 months max. Certainly not better off long term with a suppressed immune system.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21900 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 4:07 pm to
CDC: Natural immunity six times stronger during the Delta wave than vaccination

LINK - TD

This post was edited on 1/22/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21900 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 4:13 pm to
This post was edited on 1/22/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85086 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 5:03 pm to
What were the numbers posted here? Isn’t it normally 12 a year that have issues and the number in 2021 was like 40+?
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3319 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 5:15 pm to
One word: DERRRRR!!
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21900 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 5:15 pm to
try 495. See Liberators post on p.1 of this thread:
LINK - TD
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85086 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 5:46 pm to
That’s all athletes, I was specifically talking about professional soccer.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44273 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Neither player has even hinted that vaccines could be the cause.


Totally irrelevant.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44273 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 6:00 pm to
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Isn’t it normally 12 a year that have issues and the number in 2021 was like 40+?


These incidents in soccer are really rare. We are talking 0-3 deaths per year using data going back decades. Incidents are also quite rare.

As far as 2021, I have no clue how many incidents (or deaths) occurred with soccer.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44273 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 6:04 pm to
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Liberator believe Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin tortured a young girl, cut off her face and Hillary wore it as a mask. These people are beyond gone .


Are you going to use this line for everyone that you disagree with?
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 6:04 pm to
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Yes. Neither player has hinted that the vaccine was responsible.

Are we pretending to act like athletes aren’t muzzled from speaking about adverse events?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44273 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 6:11 pm to
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Had these players previously had covid?


It’s a legit question.

That being said, if they haven’t, and they have been vaccinated, are you going to poo poo that info? Are will you state that something seems off.

My take is that the players in question typically put forth and inordinate amount of stop and start running. IE., not like football, basketball, Cross country, swimming, or cycling.

In short, the physical requirements for soccer (especially midfielders of attackers) is, simply put, a different type of running.

As such, the issues concerning this sport may be an outlier concerning athletics, but it’s certainly a cause for concern imho (if they haven’t had Covid, and of the data is legit).
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 6:39 pm to
What took them so long to reach this conclusion?
Posted by beauxgy
LA
Member since Feb 2007
3968 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 7:40 pm to






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No, the medial data since the early days of covid told us all that heart conditions and blood clots were a side effect of covid infection. Are you also denying this?



Absolutely, you brain-dead, virtue-signalling sheep.
This post was edited on 1/22/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34406 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3997 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 10:46 pm to
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Yes. Neither player has hinted that the vaccine was responsible. Nothing you showed me from anti vax and anti covid being serious sites "goodsciencing" and "covidworld" said anything different. Of course those sites are blaming the vax, but they are both bs sites.


Bless your heart.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:43 am to
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No, the medial data since the early days of covid told us all that heart conditions and blood clots were a side effect of covid infection. Are you also denying this?


Absolutely, you brain-dead, virtue-signalling sheep


You are denying verifiable data that came out before the vaccines but I am the “sheep,” Good stuff!
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:58 am to
Athletes Collapsing And Dying [ 400 IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e24UHzhC4o
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
4303 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 5:03 am to
Well, if I were one of the people in charge of creating a future narrative needed to counter a side effect of a treatment, I would put out info stating that the side effect is a naturally occurring possibility of the disease itself. That’s called getting out ahead of the cause/effect narrative.
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