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re: So why would they prefer Trump?

Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:21 pm to
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It's about who would create chaos to the foundations of American life and government,

Somebody has been reading the NYT. What a bunch of shite.
"It's CHAOS! CHAOS, I tell ya!"
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:23 pm to
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What a bunch of shite.


IKR....The Trump admin is a load of shite and running the country like he runs his hotel....straight into the ground.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Part of Trump's core base thinks that the other side is promoting Satanism and pedophilia in some widespread manner,


'Part of' ... What percent?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:26 pm to
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BlackHelicopterPilot
You need to become a Leftist

Because those are the two most plausible explanations I have seen
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:28 pm to
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The Trump admin is a load of shite and running the country like he runs his hotel....straight into the ground.


You're not reading the NYT. It's not 'into the ground'. It's 'the lowest ever. How low can he go?'

In 7 more years the 'lower than low' narrative is gonna start going through the earth's core and then start getting 'high'. Unless you don't believe the earth is round.
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4150 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:29 pm to
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because he's stupid, very ignorant of how the world actually works, ignorant of protocol, and his opinions and positions on topics are that of an eight grader and they have leverage on him.


Geez, I don't even know where to start with you.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16991 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:40 pm to
The token answer has been that Trump wanted to dismiss the sanctions, as evidenced by Flynn's phone call with Kislyak.

However, what they don't tell you is Flynn was talking specifically about the sanctions Obama placed on Russia at the last minute because of election meddling (the only evidence of which they had being the Steele dossier).

So, once again, it's circular logic. Just like we had the Steele dossier used in a FISA warrant and a Yahoo news article (planted by Steele) used to corroborate the dossier. Steele being used to corroborate Steele.

It's the same with the sanctions. Obama slaps some (very insignificant) sanctions on Russia literally on his way out the door because of what he read in the Steele dossier. Flynn tells the Russians "no biggie, it's all BS." The left goes crazy about Flynn wanting to undo sanctions that were brought on by bullshite information in the first place.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:44 pm to
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It's the exact opposite. If you're wheeling and dealing you want to do it with Hillary because she's a fricking moron who has trouble staying vertical.



Lol, you made the argument for them wo even knowing it.

Trump is the moron you're talking about, and a mediocre business man at best. Russia knows this, therefore they helped him win. Russia is much more likely to pull a fast one over on DJT than he is HRC. For all his lack of real business acumen the only thing he might know even less about is foreign policy.

Note: I don't actually buy they meaningfully interfered in the election, I need more proof. I'm just pointing out how backwards this post is. If Russia could meddle, you can easily make a case for why they'd favor Don, who doesn't know anything about how any of the plumbing works.

This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted by AmericaOverParties
Along I-10
Member since Jan 2018
403 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:47 pm to
Not sure about HRC but Trump pretty much su**** him off every chance he got.
Posted by AmericaOverParties
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Member since Jan 2018
403 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:51 pm to
Trump tells David Letterman that he’s done “a lot of business with the Russians” and says they are “smart” and “tough” and that they don’t look “so dumb right now.” He calls Putin a “tough guy” and says that he “met him once.”

Trump tells a crowd at CPAC that Putin sent him a present during Miss Universe with a note and he “spoke to all of his people.”



Trump says at a New Hampshire event that Putin is “absolutely having a great time.” He says “Russia is like, I mean they’re really hot stuff” and “and now you have people in the Ukraine — who knows, set up or not — but it can’t all be set up, I mean they’re marching in favor of joining Russia.”
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:29 pm to
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Part of Trump's core base thinks that the other side is promoting Satanism and pedophilia in some widespread manner, to the extent a guy showed up with a gun over it.


Ok? Not much to do with Russia.


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Trump openly promotes a revolt against American media and has created an environment (with the MSM's help, of course) where nothing is to be trusted.


So the guy says "don't trust the media," who have historically supported Russia and the USSR? The people who ridiculed Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney for daring to call Russia a threat? You mean the Russians preferred a president that saw them in a similar light to Reagan? What are you smoking?

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HRC is a much more traditional and more predictable politician


spineless foreign policy with an affordable price tag. nuff said.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:45 pm to
Study the history of the Cold War, vis a vis Soviets and United States....

Also study how pathetically corrupt, weak, appeasing and cowardly both Obama and Clinton were/are, especially in National Security and Foreign Policy.

The filthy Dems, who are for a weak ineffective military and a surrenderist, retreating foreign policy, are the ones who always capitulated to the Russians. The Russians LAUGHED THEIR ASSES OFF at stupid jug ears, even more so than pussy fart Carter. The narrative that filthy kunt Clinton is more hawkish or smart with foreign policy is a disgusting lie. NOTHING could be further from the truth.

Putin would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have had stupid selfish criminal liar Clinton in office than a REAL leader, which is the current Commander in Chief who actually leads from the front, and has and is in short order re-establishing the United States of America as THE exceptional Superpower of the Western World. Stick that in your filthy democrat bubbles, and sniff it little dimmykrats...the truth of it will make your little heads explode (or wake you up to the truth).

eta: not directed at you, Soul.... sorry...
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 4:51 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:52 pm to
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because he's stupid, very ignorant of how the world actually works, ignorant of protocol, and his opinions and positions on topics are that of an eight grader and they have leverage on him.


Does that template ever get old?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:22 pm to
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Study the history of the Cold War, vis a vis Soviets and United States...


This.

The current narrative of the Left has NO basis in history or reality. Even 5 years ago they all mocked and ridiculed anybody who said Russia was one of our biggest threats.

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Also study how pathetically corrupt, weak, appeasing and cowardly both Obama and Clinton were/are, especially in National Security and Foreign Policy. 


Ditto


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The filthy Dems, who are for a weak ineffective military and a surrenderist, retreating foreign policy, are the ones who always capitulated to the Russians. The Russians LAUGHED THEIR ASSES OFF at stupid jug ears, even more so than pussy fart Carter. The narrative that filthy kunt Clinton is more hawkish or smart with foreign policy is a disgusting lie. NOTHING could be further from the truth. 


X1000



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eta: not directed at you, Soul.... sorry...


No apologies needed.
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