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So what is the true cause of all the labor shortages

Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:01 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:01 am
Isnt the extended unemployment gone? Isn't the rent moratorium expired? How are all these bums making it by?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:02 am to
People being paid to stay home
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:03 am to
You think there is some magic switch that puts people back to work?
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:03 am to
Haven't we always had unemployment benefits? That's the part I don't understand
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14037 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:03 am to
As it turns out, paying people not to work makes people not want to work
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Haven't we always had unemployment benefits? That's the part I don't understand

From the state yes but the Fed started paying them and combined people didn't have to go get their cashier, grill or table waiting job.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8132 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:05 am to
The CDC overruled the Supreme Court and extended the evection moratorium. So, basically, all those people who are getting paid more to stay home are also paying no rent, which gives them more cash to blow on whatever. They’ve never had it so good. No way they’re going back to work.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7836 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Haven't we always had unemployment benefits? That's the part I don't understand


An extra $1,200/month + rent moratorium + 25% increase in snap benefits =/= normal unemployment benefits.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:07 am to
They gave checks for unemployment that were in most cases twice the amount that would be given. Unemployment is on the norm half of the previous salaries. Then there is pressure from that move to pay more in salaries then the market will allow. Then comes the tagalong short supplies due to no workers. Then comes the increase in price due to shortage of supplies caused by backlog demand. Then.....
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6141 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:07 am to
quote:

You think there is some magic switch that puts people back to work?


Yes, it’s called ending the additional unemployment.

The people who sat home to collect unemployment checks are not the people who save money for a rainy day. They have to be out of money by now yet somehow, they are not returning to the workforce.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:08 am to
quote:

Isnt the extended unemployment gone? Isn't the rent moratorium expired? How are all these bums making it by?


Good question!

Something doesn't add up...

But neither does the housing shortage we're seeing in North carolina.

Our homes have nearly 30% increase the last 12 months...unhealthy situations

People putting 90k for due diligence ...that money is non refundable...

Up to 100k over asking price. Its insane whats going on here.

Gas 3.07 Supreme is 3.79

Chick fi la has limited store hours due to labor shortages.

McDonald's offering 400 signing bonus...



Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:10 am to
quote:

An extra $1,200/month + rent moratorium + 25% increase in snap benefits =/= normal unemployment benefits.

Add in the stimulus checks
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22171 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:10 am to
Lazy Americans and Mexicans getting welfare
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33068 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Something doesn't add up...

But neither does the housing shortage we're seeing in North carolina.

Our homes have nearly 30% increase the last 12 months...unhealthy situations

People putting 90k for due diligence ...that money is non refundable...

Up to 100k over asking price. Its insane whats going on here.

Gas 3.07 Supreme is 3.79

Chick fi la has limited store hours due to labor shortages.

McDonald's offering 400 signing bonus..


Building back better
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28405 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:12 am to
A lot of those of retirement age arent going back to work.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12183 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:14 am to
Child credit government checks.

And

You don’t have to replace someone’s income entirely to get them to stop working.

You just have to give them enough money so they are not uncomfortable.

Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5183 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:15 am to
90k due diligence??? Surely you’re mistaken.
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
3192 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:17 am to
CDC overuling the Supreme Court? Someone explain this shite to me.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68276 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Haven't we always had unemployment benefits? That's the part I don't understand
Were people given a couple $4,000 checks too?
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 7:20 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:20 am to
A lot of bosses have been getting away with treating their people like crap for years. Can't get away with running a shop and behaving like the characters on the Office anymore. Want Dwight as your boss?

From the WaPo (edited to fit)

Last week, two of my friends abruptly quit relatively new jobs on the same day. One was writing for a small publication whose editor had departed, leaving them rudderless; the other, working for a public-service call center, had had a random manager demand an explanation for why her terminal had been briefly inactive during a recent shift. So they quit.

What you have to understand is that these friends are not the type to impulsively abandon paid work. When we finally landed paying jobs, no matter how toxic or how bad a fit they were for us, we stuck them out as long as humanly possible. Finding and pursuing one’s Passion in Life was all well and good as a concept, but rent and health care don’t pay for themselves. We resigned ourselves to being bored or stressed or underpaid until something better came along.

Anecdotes, of course, aren’t data. But along with employment statistics and “Help Wanted” signs everywhere, seeing these two friends take “resignation” from a passive state-of-being to an empowered course of action simply confirms for me that U.S. workers, in the words of consulting firm Grace Ocean CEO Phillip Kane, have overwhelmingly made “a decision to no longer accept the unacceptable.”

We’re seeing the results of these decisions as frontline workers in health care, child care, hospitality and food service industries, pushed to the brink of human endurance, decide that the grueling hours, inadequate pay, lack of balance and abuse by employers and clientele are no longer acceptable trade-offs for their mental and physical well-being. Restaurant signs urge patrons to “be patient with those who showed up to work” because they can’t afford to lose any more workers to abusive customers.

The other day, while grocery shopping, I overheard a young new cashier complaining to co-workers about back pain from standing in the same spot all day with no movement except scanning purchases and accepting payments. She wondered aloud “how anyone does this for 20 years.”

As I thanked her for ringing up my purchases, I mentioned that having a chair to sit in, as some grocery chains provide, would surely bring relief. If her employer is smart, it’s already considering chairs along with other ways to improve working conditions. Because I guarantee that this worker, and anyone who might be hired to replace her, isn’t about to resign herself to accepting the unacceptable — and certainly not the painfully uncomfortable.

Reader query: During the coronavirus pandemic, have you left an unsatisfactory job that you might have held on to before? What was the final straw? Write me at work.advice.wapo@gmail.com and share your story.

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