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re: So to all the posters who were on the "Trump committed fraud to get his loans" crowd
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:04 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:04 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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What are your thoughts now that the Deutsch Bank rep testified that it was normal and happens all the time? Oh, and they didn't take Trump's word on his worth but actually did their own due diligence....Imagine that....
The state of New York is simply envious they don't have the beautiful income statement and balance sheet of the Trump organization.....OMB must be destroyed.
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:05 pm to TigerIn2023
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Please explain how submitting false and misleading financial statements to obtain loans, insurance coverage, and other financial benefits would not be considered deception, misrepresentation, concealment, suppression or false pretense?
Do you now agree that it requires intent, right?
Let’s start there. You keep moving the goalposts.
And for the 7th time-
Why did you bring up the assessed value as an argument for fair market value? You keep asking questions, but never answering any.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:07 pm to dinosaur
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You are arguing that you can have fraud without a victim. How then do you define fraudlent activity that the statute is aimed at?
He doesn’t know what he’s arguing. He alleges fraud, then when he gets shown there is no fraud, he argues that fraud isn’t a necessary element of the statute, when he’s shown that fraud is a necessary element he tries to argue again that fraud occurred.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:08 pm to BBONDS25
You’re wasting your time with an alt. Enjoy the weekend brother
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:13 pm to BBONDS25
quote:LOL! Why are you assuming I would now agree to a point you have provided no basis for?
Do you now agree that it requires intent, right?
quote:You seem fixated on this single point while ignoring the discrepancies in square footage and other assessments. You’ve also failed to provide an assessment which says it’s anything other than the assessed value. Why would I continue an argument with someone who has proven they are willing to make absolutely absurd claims with nothing to actually back them up?
Why did you bring up the assessed value as an argument for fair market value? You keep asking questions, but never answering any.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:17 pm to TigerIn2023
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TigerIn2023
You are probably too young to even recognize that movie.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:10 pm to TigerIn2023
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LOL! Why are you assuming I would now agree to a point you have provided no basis for?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:19 pm to RoosterCogburn585
OMB is all that matters.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:24 pm to MFn GIMP
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The only people here who believe Trump committed fraud are a handful of mouth breathers like tarzana.
How do you commit fraud by taking a loan from a third party that verifies values of collateral assets internally and was paid back all principle and interest from the customer on time per the agreed upon loans contracts?
No one with a 20th of a brain can read that and believe fraud was committed. Typical Trump political witch hunt.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:26 pm to TigerIn2023
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Please explain how submitting false and misleading financial statements to obtain loans, insurance coverage, and other financial benefits would not be considered deception, misrepresentation, concealment, suppression or false pretense?
Who was or is the victim of fraud in this case? The bank testified they were not defrauded and had no damages from any dealings with the Defendant?
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