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re: So is Ukraine still imminent to fall to Russia?

Posted on 6/24/23 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103835 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 3:46 pm to
Prigozhin is being forced to go to Belarus now? How antisemitic of Putin!
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9986 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Did Ukraine fall this afternoon or something?


Matter of weeks, I'm hearing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36105 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:00 pm to
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The solution was to abide by Minsk, drop the NATO BS, and never fight the goddamned war.


Russia didn’t abide by Minsk.

Ukraine is a Sovereign nation and had every right to join the EU and NATO. Russia had no right to European nations, Georgia, Crimea or Ukraine but they try and take what they want under the guise of self defense.

If I were Russia’s neighbor I’d beg to get in NATO.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124053 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:36 pm to
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Russia didn’t abide by Minsk.
You really should resist doing this to yourself.
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Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s admission that the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 peace protocols that sought to solve the problem of the Donbas region in Ukraine was not really meant for what it was supposedly intended to do: to have peace in that Russian-speaking populace. It was actually designed to rearm Ukraine.

That is what Merkel admitted in an interview with German weekly Die Zeit in what is now evolving as a ruse from the West to build the military capability of Ukraine. We have to admire Merkel for her candid statement about Minsk that has now been pounced upon by those who saw the fakery that attended the supposed peace protocols for Donbas.

Merkel admits Minsk meant to buy Ukraine time
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53558 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:37 pm to
I think Hollande admitted it was a joke delay tactic, too.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36105 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:46 pm to
The Ukrainians didn’t abide by Minsk either. Neither side did.

So like I said, Russia; did not abide by Minsk. Furthermore, neither did their surrogates.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124053 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:06 pm to
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The Ukrainians didn’t abide by Minsk either.
Dude. Yikes!
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36105 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:38 pm to
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The Ukrainians didn’t abide by Minsk either.Dude. Yikes!


Now that’s a brilliant response.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:57 pm to
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Russia didn’t abide by Minsk.

Ukraine is a Sovereign nation and had every right to join the EU and NATO. Russia had no right to European nations, Georgia, Crimea or Ukraine but they try and take what they want under the guise of self defense.

If I were Russia’s neighbor I’d beg to get in NATO.


Yours is a simpleton view of a geopolitical paradigm that has been known to the world for over 30 years.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124053 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 7:33 pm to
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Now that’s a brilliant response.
you have one side admitting the Minsk Agreement was a ruse. Yet, you're claiming the Russians were equally culpable for breaking Minsk. You have got to be kidding!
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
2578 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 7:38 pm to
The two regions they want?

Yes
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