re: So conservatives think the government is about to give them something for free

quote:

---

A believer! I've known he's been saying it, but it doesn't make it so. They aren't going to cut a check, and any tariff results in retaliation and a trade war which probably cost us many times what the wall would have. There once was a time when conservatives didn't trust the government when it said it would give them something for free.

---

I predict that in a few months, these idiot smug communist pseudo-intellectuals will reason their way into eating their own shite, then proceed to claim some sort of intellectual superiority, and moral high ground for doing so.

These people never cease to blow my mind.

You can call me a true believer if you want. Doesn't hurt me. I will gain some ridicule around here...but I was elected to be a delegate for Kasich in the primary if he had enough votes to have even one delegate in my state. He didn't win enough for me to get to go to the convention. I do realize that Trump seems to do what he says he will do. The plan has been up for months. Your speculation seems to be more unlikely than trump following through on his plan.

If you actually read his plan you would know they don't need to cut a check. You continue to claim some sort of superior knowledge...but are clearly ignorant to the actual plan.

The wall is going to cost 10 billion dollars. Illegals directly dump $25 billion dollars per year out of the us economy, plus the cost taxpayers on average $14000 more per year per person than they pay in any kind of taxes, through government services at local, state, and federal levels and the cost burden they place on the health care system. We have the power to completely stop remittances to Mexico, which is their largest single source of foreign income (larger than oil exports). We are also their largest export market. We have the leverage to put the screws to them to a disastrous degree while only suffering slightly and temporarily ourselves. One way or another w can make them pay for it, even if it's just putting a 50% tax on wires or money orders to mexico

quote:

---

Don't worry, it'll be the Democrats' fault that it didn't get built.

---

As the previous poster said, your baseless speculation is a lot more unlikely to be proven correct than Trump actually following through.

Your white guilt will be at an all time high when the wall is completed.

What negotiations?

quote:

---

your baseless speculation

---

Says the guy who actually believes the Great Wall of China is coming to our southern border.

quote:

---

Your white guilt

---

What does race have to do with a fascist establishment snake oil salesman fooling the sheople into believing he's going to change his spots overnight?

quote:

---

Says the guy who actually believes the Great Wall of China is coming to our southern border.

---

No offense, but you are retarded. The Great Wall was built on top of a range of mountains without even a fraction of the modern technology that we have today.

And you seriously think a wall can't be built along the Rio Grande?

Then what are you saying, oh high pseudo-intellectual one?

(Edit). Please fill me in on the intricacies of your high smug knowledge of the English language. I must know!

quote:

---

you're not getting something for free.

---

And you are out to lunch if you thought 'getting the wall for free' was any part of the desire for the wall.

"Getting the wall" was the key = 'making mexico pay for it was a throwaway line'

and it doesn't have to be a brick and mortar wall = anything that stops the flow represents a 'wall'