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re: Single-payer would be a nightmare for Americans
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:38 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:38 pm to WeeWee
Single payer? Well, maybe some people individually will think it's "a nightmare". But all they will hear from mass media, from Government, from academia, from pop culture -- all they will hear from these usual suspects is that Single Payer is great.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:19 pm to BamaAtl
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The idea that they're comparable to ours solely in wait times is beyond silly.
you call that a response? Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:24 pm to BulldogXero
quote:You'll have to define "having money".
I am assuming they "had" money.
quote:One would be surprised what one can do if you're willing to make (real not fake) sacrifices and willing to pay cash.
No way it would have been possible otherwise.
quote:Once again the terms here are important. Middle-class in the US != "middle class" in Europe. I know what the guy made. I wrote his checks (literally). You would not consider him "rich" by US standards. Though you are correct, his salary was above working class U.K.
You hear these stories a lot. Europeans coming to the US to receive more immediate access to healthcare is nothing new, but I guarantee you, few have a means of doing that.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:25 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
you call that a response?
That was the issue being discussed.
Welcome to it.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:27 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Nope.
That was the issue being discussed.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:28 pm to Taxing Authority
Bama is the queen of strawman arguments and definitions
you just have to accept that when trying to discuss anything with her
you just have to accept that when trying to discuss anything with her
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:32 pm to Taxing Authority
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Nope.
Yep.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Si.
Bama is the queen of strawman arguments and definitions
quote:Log ago accepted. I'm enjoying drawing into light.
you just have to accept that when trying to discuss anything with her
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:35 pm to Cruiserhog
quote:
Just imagine the horror.
Imagine us all driving a Rolls Royce. Just imagine the horror. It would be fantastic, man. Let's make it happen.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:36 pm to Taxing Authority
Let us know when you've read the thread for context and are able to continue.
Until then, you're really just flailing.
Until then, you're really just flailing.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:52 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Already have. Sorry you can't keep up. Or dishonest. I won't guess
Let us know when you've read the thread for context and are able to continue.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:53 pm to Taxing Authority
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Already have.
Oh, good. Now that we're on the same page, you ready to move on from your false statements?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:55 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I'd have to make one first. But keep hoping.
Oh, good. Now that we're on the same page, you ready to move on from your false statements?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:56 pm to WeeWee
I think it is wholly a state issue,
But, I think I could bring everyone to the table on building 4 completely free superhospitals, fully staffed.
They would be in upstate NY, Chattanooga, Tyler TX, and LV...
I would cut all other funding and peel Medicare back.
Done, free healthcare for all, and cheaper for the govt.
But, I think I could bring everyone to the table on building 4 completely free superhospitals, fully staffed.
They would be in upstate NY, Chattanooga, Tyler TX, and LV...
I would cut all other funding and peel Medicare back.
Done, free healthcare for all, and cheaper for the govt.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:06 pm to WeeWee
I think it will never happen because for it to happen people currently paying little to no money in taxes would have to cough up 20-40% of their income.
Good luck getting that to happen.
Not to mention it would be a disaster for quality of care and innovation.
Good luck getting that to happen.
Not to mention it would be a disaster for quality of care and innovation.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:19 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I assumed we were addressing something relevant. My bad. I shouldn't make that assumption in exchanges with you.
Phew. Glad you've heard at least one term we're using today.
I assumed we were discussing something that would make a cost difference, such as our excessive system expense, rather than the irrelevant 3rd party payor method chosen to corral its horses once they've left the barn.
As we've established, single payer would leave us entrenched in an extraordinarily expensive system. It is profit vs not-for-profits in that system and the environment driving expenses that are cost determinative, regardless of payor.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:03 pm to 225bred
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Wow, you are one hateful monster.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:09 pm to Taxing Authority
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I'd have to make one first.
You crossed that bar a page or two ago.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:10 pm to NC_Tigah
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I assumed we were discussing something that would make a cost difference, such as our excessive system expense,
Somehow you're of the opinion that slashing Medicaid by $1T will fix that.
Spoiler: you're wrong, as always
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:14 pm to BamaAtl
So I wonder if rich people will accept it or will it be like the UK, where the people with real money get the real care and the peasants get their kids killed.
fricking elites wouldn't go anywhere near that shite.
fricking elites wouldn't go anywhere near that shite.
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