re: Sikh man stabs 18-yo British student to death after claiming he'd been racially abused

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They really aren't.

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they are

It’s like saying all Orangemen in Northern Ireland are violent

The Quran tells Muslims to kill those who don’t follow the same ideas - it’s not the same for Sikhs or Orangemen - but both groups have extremists.

Try reading a book or two after you complete hooked on phonics lessons.

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Sikhs were good muzzies

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You must not be much of a thinker, or a reader

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they are

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbar_Khalsa

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Try reading a book or two after you complete hooked on phonics lessons.

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https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T01127R000700620002-1.pdf

Look, most groups out there don't have their own terrorist organization.

If they do, it's quite hard to call them "usually pretty peaceful".

Unfortunately facts seem to have collided with your opinions.

You can try to downgrade this to "everyone less violent than Muslims", but that's just a pointless no true Scotsman fallacy.

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You can try to downgrade this to "everyone less violent than Muslims", but that's just a pointless no true Scotsman fallacy.

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do you even know what a ‘no true Scotsman fallacy’ is?

Sikhs are not Muslims.

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You then modified your prior claim to be well not as violent as Muslims.

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that isn’t what I said - I said Muslims are taught to hate and dislike those that do not agree with them

Sikhs do not teach that - however - there are extremist groups in every religion - so I used the example of the Orangemen in Northern Ireland in comparison.

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If you are curious

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I am not - I have studied the Sikh religion in regards to the many things I do for my job - I studied it way before I met any Sikhs. So you can cherry pick an extremist group from that religion all you like - and I’ll also go believing all Northern Irish Prots are violent bastards, too.

This sikhens me.

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I am not - I have studied the Sikh religion in regards to the many things I do for my job - I studied it way before I met any Sikhs.

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Yes its obvious that you are the same as a Muslim apologist, "Islam is a religion of peace" who will say,

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So you can cherry pick an extremist group from that religion all you like - and I’ll also go believing all Northern Irish Prots are violent bastards, too.

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Of course here comes the very disingenuous moving of the goal posts again.
Now it's not,

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Sikhs are usually pretty peaceful - like violence is a last resort

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But you upped the bar to all people of type X are violent bastards.

You should be ashamed of such stupid and awkward goalpost shifts.

You should also be ashamed of going into a thread where a boy has been murdered and then being an apologist for the religion of the murderer.

Really tacky and disrespectful.

As you've shifted the goalpost so far you have seemed to acknowledge the truth that Sikhs are known to be violent at times, and that his claim of murderous retaliation for "being racially abused" is in alignment with other Sikh terrorists who justified their behavior by claiming to be oppressed,

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Armed Sikh separatists stormed one of the country’s most prestigious engineering colleges before dawn Friday, killing 19 students asleep in a dormitory, police said.
Sikh extremists have killed at least 1,544 people this year in their bid to carve out a separate homeland they want to call Khalistan, or “Land of the Pure.”

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Look, just like a Muslim apoligist, we can replace Sikh with Muslim and its equally valid.

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Muslims do not teach that - however - there are extremist groups in every religion - so I used the example of the Orangemen in Northern Ireland in comparison.

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With how far you have shifted the goal posts, yes not all Sikhs are violent bastards, but they do have a violent recent history of justification of violence in response to any mistreatment.

And that was the exact claim by the murderer.