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SIAP: WSJ - Why they hate Trump. (This is really a good read.)

Posted on 10/21/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 7:44 pm
I just hope this is not Germans, I looked, couldn't find it. SIAP but this is well worth your time. The guy nails it. Subscribe to the WSJ ... but wanted us to share thisone with non-subscribers because they sent it to us as share worthy in an email. Here you go ...

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The Real Reason They Hate Trump

He’s the average American in exaggerated form—blunt, simple, willing to fight, mistrustful of intellectuals.

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By David Gelernter
Oct. 21, 2018 3:01 p.m. ET


Excerpted fair use:


Every big U.S. election is interesting, but the coming midterms are fascinating for a reason most commentators forget to mention: The Democrats have no issues. The economy is booming and America’s international position is strong. In foreign affairs, the U.S. has remembered in the nick of time what Machiavelli advised princes five centuries ago: Don’t seek to be loved, seek to be feared.

The contrast with the Obama years must be painful for any honest leftist. For future generations, the Kavanaugh fight will stand as a marker of the Democratic Party’s intellectual bankruptcy, the flashing red light on the dashboard that says “Empty.” The left is beaten.

This has happened before, in the 1980s and ’90s and early 2000s, but then the financial crisis arrived to save liberalism from certain destruction. Today leftists pray that Robert Mueller will put on his Superman outfit and save them again.

For now, though, the left’s only issue is “We hate Trump.” This is an instructive hatred, because what the left hates about Donald Trump is precisely what it hates about America. The implications are important, and painful.

Not that every leftist hates America. But the leftists I know do hate Mr. Trump’s vulgarity, his unwillingness to walk away from a fight, his bluntness, his certainty that America is exceptional, his mistrust of intellectuals, his love of simple ideas that work, and his refusal to believe that men and women are interchangeable. Worst of all, he has no ideology except getting the job done. His goals are to do the task before him, not be pushed around, and otherwise to enjoy life. In short, he is a typical American—except exaggerated, because he has no constraints to cramp his style except the ones he himself invents.

Mr. Trump lacks constraints because he is filthy rich and always has been and, unlike other rich men, he revels in wealth and feels no need to apologize—ever. He never learned to keep his real opinions to himself because he never had to. He never learned to be embarrassed that he is male, with ordinary male proclivities. Sometimes he has treated women disgracefully, for which Americans, left and right, are ashamed of him—as they are of JFK and Bill Clinton.

But my job as a voter is to choose the candidate who will do best for America. I am sorry about the coarseness of the unconstrained average American that Mr. Trump conveys. That coarseness is unpresidential and makes us look bad to other nations. On the other hand, many of his opponents worry too much about what other people think. I would love the esteem of France, Germany and Japan. But I don’t find myself losing sleep over it.

The difference between citizens who hate Mr. Trump and those who can live with him—whether they love or merely tolerate him—comes down to their views of the typical American: the farmer, factory hand, auto mechanic, machinist, teamster, shop owner, clerk, software engineer, infantryman, truck driver, housewife. The leftist intellectuals I know say they dislike such people insofar as they tend to be conservative Republicans.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama know their real sins. They know how appalling such people are, with their stupid guns and loathsome churches. They have no money or permanent grievances to make them interesting and no Twitter followers to speak of. They skip Davos every year and watch Fox News. Not even the very best has the dazzling brilliance of a Chuck Schumer, not to mention a Michelle Obama. In truth they are dumb as sheep.

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Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 7:55 pm to
They hate trump bc he ended their socialist reign and has proved what a corrupt cluster frick DC is. They hate him bc he has stopped their globalist goals and set the NWO dream back decades. He has their power. That’s why they hate him.


Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

They hate trump bc he ended their socialist reign and has proved what a corrupt cluster frick DC is. They hate him bc he has stopped their globalist goals and set the NWO dream back decades. He has their power. That’s why they hate him.

Oh I think you're right about that but I think this is more about the voters, the people out there blindly following the hate ... this is why.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:08 pm to
It IS an interesting read ... a fascinating look into the misconceptions of the Trump sycophant.

And even better for supporting the preconceptions of Trumpettes.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:11 pm to
I haven't figured out why they hate him. It's pretty damn mystifying. The absolute hatred is a bit disconcerting.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

misconceptions of the Trump sycophant


Never change hank, otherwise you might be taken seriously
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

It IS an interesting read ... a fascinating look into the misconceptions of the Trump sycophant.

This statement reinforces the validity of OP's article.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:14 pm to
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Never change hank, otherwise you might be taken seriously


Hank vehemently declares his conservatism too
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

It IS an interesting read ... a fascinating look into the misconceptions of the Trump sycophant.



Tell us why people support Trump and why people hate him. Tell me, someone with a PhD in economics, about why I don’t hate him.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:23 pm to
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Hank vehemently declares his conservatism too
You are an idiot of truly epic proportions. Not ONCE have I EVER described myself on this Forum as a “Conservative.”

I invite you to link even ONE instance in which I did so. We both know tjat you will not do so, because you pulled this bullscheiss out of your arse.

The vast majority of “Conservatives” are just the flipside of the same Statist coin as the Dems. Most of them are just too brainwashed to realize it.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

The vast majority of “Conservatives” are just the flipside of the same Statist coin as the Dems. Most of them are just too brainwashed to realize


Another lightweight who measures his superiority against his own asinine interpretation of others positions
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9293 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

...his unwillingness to walk away from a fight, his bluntness, his certainty that America is exceptional, his mistrust of intellectuals, his love of simple ideas that work, and his refusal to believe that men and women are interchangeable. Worst of all, he has no ideology except getting the job done. His goals are to do the task before him, not be pushed around, and otherwise to enjoy life.


Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:26 pm to
When you can’t even not lie in the first sentence what is the point of reading more?
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
63989 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:27 pm to
Related- frick the WSJ. It is a shell of its former self. Every wsj liberal-slanted clickbait story on FB is free. Every con-slant clickbait headline requires subscription. Pisses me off every time. I will only read it when it comes free with my hotel room.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:34 pm to
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Tell me, someone with a PhD in economics, about why I don’t hate him.
I cannot read your mind, but I assume that you support him for reasons other than huge deficits, vote-buying tax cuts and spending like a drunken sailor, since you claim to know something about economics. Maybe you like ineffective boondoggles like Walls in the desert.

I cannot speak for anyone else, but I agree with him on about 80% of policy matters, but I despise his personality and consider him to be totally unworthy of the office of the Presidency. I am normally a GOP-voting libertarian, but I voted LPA in 2016 for the first time in my life because Trump was the GOP nominee. Even so, I would have voted for the bastard, if Texas had been in play.

For ONE reason only. Judicial appointments.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

This statement reinforces the validity of OP's article.


Mmm hmmm
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:40 pm to
I suppose that is somewhat sufficient, though not 100% accurate.

quote:

since you claim to know something about economics. Maybe you like ineffective boondoggles like Walls in the desert.




Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:44 pm to
Key words: Trump has mastered the obvious and added common sense and is focused on the task @ hand. As to foreign affairs it is amazing what he is accomplishing by making America feared instead of seeking love that was never love at all. Rather it was an opening to capitalize on our benevolence. It is amazing how negotiable people get when you have them firmly by the balls. And DJT has mastered the art of loosening his grip, dusting them off and then making a deal we can all live with.

His refusal to bow to poly correctness as in men and women are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE and they are not, burns libs to the core.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 8:50 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:47 pm to
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As to foreign affairs it is amazing what he is accomplishing by making America feared instead of seeking love that was never love at all.
There is an important middle ground between the two ... it is called “respect.”
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