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re: Shouldn’t “preemptive’ pardons be unconstitutional?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Uh...if the crime was already committed, how is it "preemptive"?
Because it’s preempting actual criminal charges. You are smart enough to know that, you just wanted to play this annoying character again.
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There is no limitation in the Constitution that the pardon power arises once an investigation begins.
Until 9 old people in robes get to tell us what is constitutional for awhile.
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:47 am to Jake88
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That means any federal crime they may have committed even unrelated to, say, J6 for those committee members or COVID for Fauci? If Liz Cheney had committed some federal crime completely unrelated to her opposition actions vs Trump, she's pardoned?
If my assumption is correct, yes.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:48 am to CountryVolFan
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Because it’s preempting actual criminal charges. You are smart enough to know that,
Yes, which is why I covered this literally with my next line of the post.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
So any federal crimes that may have been committed on or before 1/20/2025. Damn.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:51 am to greygoose
could Biden have issued a preemptive pardon to every person who might be charged, though unnamed, by the Trump administration, every state and local government? Looks like some here believe the answer is YES
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Uh...if the crime was already committed, how is it "preemptive"?
You really think this a clever gotcha, don't you?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Jake, we aren’t in a court of law. I’m stating my opinion on the matter.
Your syndrome doesn’t allow you to have any objectivity.
Your syndrome doesn’t allow you to have any objectivity.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:53 am to momentoftruth87
He gets paid to break up marriages. Bottom feeders barely above the billboard/TV shysters
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:53 am to tiger520
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So what crimes did Fauci, Milley and the J6 Committee commit then?
I just read 5 pages....and sfp has successfully avoided answering this. My guess is that he will avoid directly answering so that he cannot be attached to anything substantive. typical gutless shite.
Fauci, the entire J6 committee, Milley....all should be treated in the same way that Gen Flynn was treated...civil lawsuits until they are broke.
until the right can fight with the same lack of rues like the left does...this will be miserable downward spiral.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:54 am to Geekboy
Wait, we're now talking about something we think is unconstitutional?
"Let China decide" I think is what many of you are standing for nowadays
"Let China decide" I think is what many of you are standing for nowadays
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:55 am to Screaming Viking
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I just read 5 pages....and sfp has successfully avoided answering this.
I don't know and it's not relevant to the topic of OP.
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My guess is that he will avoid directly answering so that he cannot be attached to anything substantive
No. I'm not answering to avoid being attached to irrelevant digressions from OP and to keep the thread on topic (other than people randomly melting and lying about me)
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:56 am to Screaming Viking
Trump should preemptively pardon every member of his family, every friend, every Republican across the board first thing after being sworn in. I mean, while standing at the podium finishing taking the oath of office. Add Gaetz, Elon, and any other right-wing nutjob he can think up. Literally just start preemptively pardoning everyone until there is no choice for this to be taken up at the highest level of the courts.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Who is Trump going to prosecute first to start this challenge?
The lying SOS capital officer, Cassidy Hutchinson (expert witness) and a few other “witnesses”
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:00 am to hashtag
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Trump should preemptively pardon every member of his family, every friend, every Republican across the board first thing after being sworn in. I mean, while standing at the podium finishing taking the oath of office. Add Gaetz, Elon, and any other right-wing nutjob he can think up. Literally just start preemptively pardoning everyone until there is no choice for this to be taken up at the highest level of the courts.
This is actually a great idea. The cowardly John Roberts will avoid dealing with any of this if he can so force his hand. Trump should pardon all of his descendants, born or unborn, for all crimes, in perpetuity. Because pardon power is absolute, right?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:24 am to Screaming Viking
Agreed, wholeheartedly
Posted on 1/20/25 at 11:07 am to RyanMartin835
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Preemptive federal pardon wouldn't protect Milley from military tribunals would it?
This question came up before, so myself and another poster asked about it to JAG attorneys we each knew.
Both answers came back that Yes, it would be effective against a military trial. :-(
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/20/25 at 11:13 am to RougeDawg
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Biden has shown the way.
Trump can hire hitmen to take out all of Biden's pardons and then pardon himself and the hitmen.
Seems reasonable.
Issue a black ops against the target(s). Under presidential order.
No pardons needed. Immunity. Per a liberal judge, and the supreme court.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 11:32 am to David Fellows
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Nothing about his 'assessment' is accurate.
He thinks a 'preemptive' pardon refers to a crime that hasn't been committed yet. He doesn't even know the basic definition of the word.
Interpretation.
If you take it as "commit the crime and then I'll pardon you,, before you go to court" You're correct
If you take it as "Agree to do this, I will pardon you, now go commit the crime" as the Catholic church did, during the crusades, then the poster is correct.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 11:38 am to Free888
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Hunter’s pardon was so broad that Epstein suggested that it should be challenged in court since it encompassed anything and see whether the court felt the “broadness” was a violation of the power (I’m paraphrasing here, he was much more specific)
I'm sure enough that we have 5 judges on SCOTUS that would rule against these pardons. Or at the very least, the Hunter Pardon.
However.
It's up to the attorneys fighting against the pardon(s) to provide the judges with arguments that they (the judges) can use to rule against it/them.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 11:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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Covered in the psot you replied to
You're a fukking moron.
Enjoy Trump, you leftist fggot.
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