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re: Should wrongful arrest settlements come out of the officers pension?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:05 am to momentoftruth87
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:05 am to momentoftruth87
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Do ppl really have no life to go taunt the police into making a mistake?
It's a grift for money oftentimes. Their goal is to get arrested or detained so they can sue.
But go watch some of the videos and it's hard not to get upset at some of the cops. Some of them deserve to be harassed by the grifters and thankfully they are because there is no telling how often they abuse others that have no idea the laws or that the cop is setting them up.
Even if the cop isn't a complete jerk, which happens, at least they learn that they can't just detain people for an ID when no crime has been committed. They also get educated on what is and isn't a crime. None of that is a bad thing.
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:06 am to pfcTigah
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Or better yet, doesn't get the subject's ID and the subject is a convicted sex offender who isn't even supposed to be in that area!
You can go around showing your ID to cops on demand. I will stick to remaining free until Democrats finally succeed in destroying our constitution.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:08 am to Huey Lewis
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Exaclty. If a Walmart cashier makes a mistake, I can sue her for her social security.
Oh...wait a minute, I can't.
Well that Walmart employee doesn't have the ability to ruin the rest of your life so your comparison is a terrible one.
ETA: And the example about a private employer and employee relationship doesn't apply here either. We are talking about public employees paid by taxpayers that have the ability to destroy your life with lies and/or a wrongful arrest.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 8:10 am
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not aware of any other occupation or civil liability situation where a person's retirement accounts would be put at risk.
Self employment
And if you are a federal employee and convicted of a crime. Technically, the cops wrongfully arresting people is a crime (even though they word it as a "violation") which is why the settlements are so easy to obtain for the grifters.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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iability isn't an issue in almost all auto wreck cases,
Nobody mentioned auto wrecks but you. Are you suggesting that loser pays would have zero influence on our tort system?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:44 am to Flats
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Nobody mentioned auto wrecks but you.
"ambulance chasing" means...what?
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Could be slip & fall, could be a lot of garbage. If it won't work specifically for car wrecks (I'm assuming most people are suing insurance there?) then what would? We clearly need reform.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This would increase costs of "ambulance chasing" b/c the insurance company would have to pay even more (attorney's fees)
Au contraire. Many businesses pay high insurance premiums because settling low-merit and frivolous lawsuits is simply seen as a cost of doing business.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:19 pm to Flats
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Somehow there are other first world countries where people don’t run around harming people and they don’t have anything approaching our absurd tort system. But mention ANY reform to it and there’s always a reason that the reform can’t work.
Tort litigation costs in the United States are higher than any other developed nation. Our entire legal system facilitates and nurtures payouts for low-merit nuisance lawsuits because of the high costs of litigation.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:20 pm to Flats
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Nobody mentioned auto wrecks but you. Are you suggesting that loser pays would have zero influence on our tort system?
So SLO-MO must be a trial attorney? It explains much.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 6:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm just saying that's a common "fix" and people who promote it have no real concept of the legal system.
You have some nerve calling out anyone else’s ability to comprehend anything you low wattage imbecile! I’ve attempted to engage in good faith debate with you before but I’ve reached my limit with your troll act.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:04 pm to stout
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Well that Walmart employee doesn't have the ability to ruin the rest of your life so your comparison is a terrible one.
No, it's an apt comparison because police are typically forced to contribute to pension systems instead of social security. Obviously the pension benefits tend to be a great deal better than social security but that's not really relevant.
They don't contribute to social security and instead are forced to contribute to the pension system. Taking their pensions as a punitive measure is the same as being able to receive an elderly person's social security check in a civil suit.
Hell, let's deprive them of Medicare benefits too if they use excessive force or make a wrongful arrest. Because frick 'em!
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