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re: Should Trump send troops into Mexico?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:50 am to OBReb6
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:50 am to OBReb6
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Mexico’s problems won’t stop until degenerates here stop doing drugs.
Correct
It would be much more beneficial to fix the problems with drugs on this side of the border
As long as there is demand the drugs will find a way here.
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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What is the estimated start date on this, exactly?
Happened in many stages.
But the period between 1913 and and 1964 seems to be the nail in the coffin.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:53 am to LeeeroyJenkins
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We as a country suffered economically at home during WW2 to support the war effort in lands far away…we could do the same here to address illegal immigration and drugs/human trafficking…it would hurt alot $ but it would work.
Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face and a severe -EV result
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:54 am to Geekboy
Completely shut down the border in everything and watch how fast things change. No goods transfer ,no people vacationing, no more money being sent from families, businesses or government and within a month the problems should start to get sorted out
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:55 am to troyt37
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Calling our enemies friends is exactly how we are in the situation we are now with China.
Mexico is actually our friend.
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Mexico is by no means one of our closest allies.
This is patently false
Just because you feel this, doesn't make it a fact.
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and sending us their wretched refuse for decades now.
Mexican illegal immigration has been on a decline for some time. The current wave is Central (and now South) Americans
You need to get educated on these issues before you comment on them.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:55 am to OBReb6
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But the period between 1913 and and 1964 seems to be the nail in the coffin.
Americans did a lot of drugs prior to 1913, too.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face and a severe -EV result
I also agree that this was the result of WW2 support
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Then the drugs will still flow.
That's how the vast majority of them are delivered to the US.
And we can exponentially increase inspections, scanners, and security by having a massive military presence on the border, instead of the federal boy scouts. We can dig a big fricking pit and shover every vehicle found to be transporting drugs into it, sending Americans walking north and Mexicans walking south. There's much than can be done at the border.
If we had a brain, we would close the border completely for 3 days, every time we catch a vehicle bringing drugs across. Within 6 months, Mexico would be inspecting every vehicle before it ever reaches our border. We can easily stand for the border to be completely closed longer than Mexico can stand it.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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Americans did a lot of drugs prior to 1913, too.
What were the numbers?
What are the suicide rates between then and now?
How does that period relate to the crisis of meaning?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:59 am to troyt37
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If we had a brain, we would close the border completely for 3 days, every time we catch a vehicle bringing drugs across.
This would, literally, destroy our economy.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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This would, literally, destroy our economy.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:00 am to OBReb6
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What were the numbers?
Americans drowned themselves in alcohol in this period (and prior)
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What are the suicide rates between then and now?
You're not going to find much good data on that, not that it's a meaningful datapoint anyway
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How does that period relate to the crisis of meaning?
This sounds like your own esoteric debate from which you started this argument.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:01 am to Jbird
The annual trade between the US and Mexico is around $850B, a sizeable portion of our GDP.
Constantly disrupting this by closing the border would be disastrous.
Constantly disrupting this by closing the border would be disastrous.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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Mexico is actually our friend.
bullshite. We have spent trillions of dollars supporting their citizens. Some of whom come to this country and commit serious, heinous crimes against the American people.
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This is patently false
Just because you feel this, doesn't make it a fact.
Back at you, fricko.
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Mexican illegal immigration has been on a decline for some time. The current wave is Central (and now South) Americans
You need to get educated on these issues before you comment on them.
See above.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Btw, I’m in favor of total drug legalization. But that won’t fix the problem either.
You tried to make it more analytical and then didn’t give me any data to work with.
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This sounds like your own esoteric debate from which you started this argument.
You tried to make it more analytical and then didn’t give me any data to work with.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:a few days, it isn't like the long shoremen shut down large portions of shipping for a few weeks. Now that absolutely decimated us!
Constantly disrupting this by closing the border would be disastrous.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:04 am to troyt37
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If we had a brain, we would close the border completely for 3 days
laredo is the busiest port in the country, without accounting for the drugs that come thru
shutting that down for a few hours would be a disaster.
for a board that whined about inflation for a few years, yall sure do love inflationary ideas
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:08 am to Geekboy
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Should Trump send troops into Mexico?
frick no. Didn't the first two decades of this century prove to you that playing whack-a-mole with insurgents doesn't work, and never will?
Would be an enormous waste of resources.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:08 am to Dire Wolf
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laredo is the busiest port in the country, without accounting for the drugs that come thru
shutting that down for a few hours would be a disaster. Multiple days would be a disaster
for a board that whined about inflation for a few years, yall sure do love inflationary ideas
Who could take the economic hit more, the US or Mexico? Sounds like it would be damned important for Mexico to get their border shite together to me.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:09 am to Jbird
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it isn't like the long shoremen shut down large portions of shipping for a few weeks.
Didn't that strike last like a day and a half?
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