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re: Should Trump send troops into Mexico?

Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:36 am to
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You kill them too. And then you kill the next batch, and the next. Eventually people smart enough to refrain from doing the shite that gets them killed takes over.



a gram of cocaine costs the cartel ~$2 and sells for ~$80 in America after being stepped on several times

the profit is too high, there will always be someone willing to assume the risk
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:39 am to
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a gram of cocaine costs the cartel ~$2 and sells for ~$80 in America after being stepped on several times

the profit is too high, there will always be someone willing to assume the risk


Which is why you complete a physical barrier between the two countries, and put the military on the border.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:40 am to
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Iraq was nation-building, hearts and minds bullshite, half way around the world.

Only due to the vacuum created by killing the terrorists, and the new terrorists that were created and destabilize the region. You would have literally the same thing in Mexico and we would never be able to leave.

Also in Iraq we were at least able to militarily win build bases for operations. How would we even engage in this action?

This is also ignoring that we didn't really engage in trade or have a good relationship with Iraq prior to the invasion and Mexico is literally one of our closest allies and largest trading partners. The economic impact from declaring war on that Ally and trading partner would be substantially negative and unlike anything that we saw with Iraq
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:40 am to
The day after 9/11, we shut down the Ports of Entry across the southern and northern borders for one whole day…and went to enhanced screening for a week.

The price of a kilo of cocaine literally doubled in price within days and by the time Bush ordered them back to “business as usual”, a kilo was selling for 3x at $30k in Dallas alone due to supply issues.

It showed how we could cripple the flow but Congress and Big Business (as well as US consumers) won’t stomach the $ hurt to get it done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:40 am to
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Which is why you complete a physical barrier between the two countries,


So no one travels between the two countries? No trucks for moving goods in commerce is allowed to go between the two countries?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:41 am to
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Should Trump send troops into Mexico?

Not initially; fire a few smart bombs from drones and then send some Marines in to clean up the place.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:41 am to
And what was the impact on all the other legal goods? I imagine those also increased substantially to correct?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:42 am to
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This is impossible as long as we remain the big gay post-Christian liberal “democracy” that we are.


What is the estimated start date on this, exactly?


Started in earnest on December 23, 1913.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:43 am to
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Which is why you complete a physical barrier between the two countries, and put the military on the border.



Spend a shite ton of tax payer money in an effort that will only make the cartels more money cause their margins would only get better
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:44 am to
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They are responsible for our immigration and drug problems.

LOL that's about the dumbest thing ever
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23446 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:44 am to
No bro we would not ultimately lose to Mexico.

That will never happen. Not a smart comment on your part
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74551 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:45 am to
No. And no they are not
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:45 am to
Cuba is like many European and Central American countries in economic crisis.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14681 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:45 am to
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So no one travels between the two countries? No trucks for moving goods in commerce is allowed to go between the two countries?


frick, you are awfully stupid for someone who pretends to be smart. If you build walls in your house, does that mean nobody can occupy the room you built? No, you put a door in that wall, so that only the people you invite can come in.
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
4069 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:46 am to
To mexico no
But to defend our border most difintely.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3474 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:46 am to
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Iraq was nation-building, hearts and minds bullshite, half way around the world.

This is blowing up shite and killing people, practically on our doorstep. You're comparing apples and cowboy boots.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:48 am to
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If you build walls in your house, does that mean nobody can occupy the room you built? No, you put a door in that wall, so that only the people you invite can come in.

Then the drugs will still flow.

That's how the vast majority of them are delivered to the US.

Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:48 am to
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And what was the impact on all the other legal goods? I imagine those also increased substantially to correct?


Of course it did. The 3rd Law of Motion played out in economics.

We as a country suffered economically at home during WW2 to support the war effort in lands far away…we could do the same here to address illegal immigration and drugs/human trafficking…it would hurt alot $ but it would work.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14681 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:49 am to
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This is also ignoring that we didn't really engage in trade or have a good relationship with Iraq prior to the invasion and Mexico is literally one of our closest allies and largest trading partners. The economic impact from declaring war on that Ally and trading partner would be substantially negative and unlike anything that we saw with Iraq


Calling our enemies friends is exactly how we are in the situation we are now with China. Mexico is by no means one of our closest allies. They have been bilking our country out of trillions of dollars, and sending us their wretched refuse for decades now.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116821 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:50 am to
They might invade us first...

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