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re: Shocking Study: More Kids Identifying As Members Of World’s Most Celebrated Popular Group

Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:10 pm to
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It's biology, which is no contrivance. Male and female procreate and live with their offspring

I'm making a distinction between...

Traditional, multi-generational household
: 3 generations or more. (Waltons - 1930s & 40s)

"Nuclear Family" household: limited to 2 generations, 2 parents. (Leave it to Beaver - 1950s & 60s)

Single parent household: two generation, one parent. (One Day at a Time - 1970s and 80s).

The first one is traditional, the second one was contrived for economic purposes, third one has become more normal in modern times.

The traditional, multi-generational household is still the best model for building wealth. The "Nuclear family" isn't as "traditional" as we are led to believe.
Posted by TH095526
Member since Dec 2022
888 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:14 pm to
When I say making everything gay I mean it's literally embedded in everything now pride month, the rainbow, entertainment. If you are gay and don't shove that you're gay down people's throat I have no problem but once you start shoving it people's throat, calling people bigots, and demanding kids learn about queer theory and sexualizing them than I have a problem.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
65288 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:18 pm to
Fair enough, although kind of arbitrary IMO. But I get your point

I would define a nuclear family as male, female, offspring

I'm not saying that's the only kind of family that will work. Obviously it is not. I do think that, ideally, it is the best kind of family as far as child rearing is concerned because it provides the diversity of male and female parenting. Again, I'm talking about an ideal setting where there is no drug abuse, alcoholism, or physical and/or sexual abuse
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22895 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:24 pm to
Too much of the celebration of this group is happening in schools. Parents beware!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:57 pm to
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I would define a nuclear family as male, female, offspring

That's because that's how it's defined. My point is that the "nuclear family" not as "traditional" as we are led to believe.

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it is the best kind of family as far as child rearing is concerned because it provides the diversity of male and female parenting.

No, it isn't. The best kind of family is multi-generational where the grandparents can care of the children. That way, you don't have to pay for child care OR elderly care. However, in the US, we now ridicule adults for living with their parents.

I think we both agree that the single parent household is the least optimal.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39450 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:00 pm to
The fall of Rome.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:01 pm to
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we now ridicule adults for living with their parents.


We apologize for mocking your roommate/mom.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:09 pm to
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We apologize for mocking your roommate/mom.

I proposed moving her in with me when she came back to Louisiana, but my sisters talked me out of it saying she didn't want to live in Baton Rouge (but couldn't bring herself to tell me), and that she also needed more care than I could provide. At 86 years old, every day with her in the world is a good one. I hope your mom lives at least as long.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:08 am to
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When I say making everything gay I mean it's literally embedded in everything now pride month


The existence of pride month is not shoving it down people's throats. Be more specific?

quote:

the rainbow,


Pride is not shoving it down people's throats, maybe you have a better example?

quote:

entertainment.


Media depicting gay people is not shoving it down people's throats.

What's wrong with you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295322 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:09 am to
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Pride is not shoving it down people's throats,

What about straight pride or white pride?
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:15 am to


Babylon Bee.....

Many a truth has been expressed in light hearted banter.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26885 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:17 am to
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The first one is traditional, the second one was contrived


There’s more implied by “nuclear family” than the living arrangements. The structure itself couldn’t have been contrived, as it was a subset of your first one. If you want to say that the living arrangement was contrived that might be accurate, although I haven’t seen any evidence that it was top-down drive as opposed to organic. Did the government provide similar incentives that led to single parent homes or did increased mobility and wealth lead to the decrease in multi-generational homes?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:18 am to
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What about straight pride or white pride?


You haven't watched much modern media, have you? I see plenty of straight relationships represented. Would you like some examples?
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1419 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:19 am to
well. on the bright side. they won't procreate, so it'll eventually all work itself out. might take a generation or two, but it will
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295322 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:20 am to
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What about straight pride or white pride?


You haven't watched much modern media, have you?


No moron.

Straight pride or white pride as movements. You know, like you gay people do.

Parades, have our own months...

I think thats fair, dont you?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:21 am to
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Straight pride or white pride as movements. You know, like you gay people do.


They are already represented, no movement needed.

Surely you're not serious?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62407 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:21 am to
I thought the Bee was supposed to be parody.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62407 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:22 am to
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They are already represented, no movement needed.

Surely you're not serious?


Found the moron. Just stop responding to this idiot.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:24 am to
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Found the moron. Just stop responding to this idiot.


What direction does a straight movement move in? They want acceptance for heterosexual couples?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154514 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:26 am to
The bee is really good at toeing the line between idiot progressives and reality.

Good satire. Leaves you wondering how many of those freaks really exist because they do.
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