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Seth Rich.... for non conspiracy theorists
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:58 pm
So, do I think it's possible he was the Wiki Source? Yes.
Is it possible he was shot because he was exposed?
Sure, I'm not blind to our gov doing bad things.
Do I believe all the crazy bullshite beating floated by Alex Jones, Cernovich and even Hannity?
Nah.
But I will say, the fact the opposition to all of these stories isn't facts, rather claims that it's tragic to do this to their family etc, doesn't make me go to their side. Facts would.
So why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of his death to prove it's not some crazy conspiracy?
Is it possible he was shot because he was exposed?
Sure, I'm not blind to our gov doing bad things.
Do I believe all the crazy bullshite beating floated by Alex Jones, Cernovich and even Hannity?
Nah.
But I will say, the fact the opposition to all of these stories isn't facts, rather claims that it's tragic to do this to their family etc, doesn't make me go to their side. Facts would.
So why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of his death to prove it's not some crazy conspiracy?
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:59 pm to Lsujacket66
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So why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of his death to prove it's not some crazy conspiracy?
Because they want to live, not get assassinated by the Clintons
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:00 pm to Lsujacket66
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So why wouldn't they want to get to the bottom of his death to prove it's not some crazy conspiracy?
Because they don't want to know the truth. THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:01 pm to Lsujacket66
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So, do I think it's possible he was the Wiki Source? Yes.
Who's to say there wasn't more than one source? Podesta, Hillary, the DNC, etc. didn't exactly have the most stringent cyber security in place.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:03 pm to KCT
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So, do I think it's possible he was the Wiki Source? Yes.
Who's to say there wasn't more than one source? Podesta, Hillary, the DNC, etc. didn't exactly have the most stringent cyber security in place.
Well we already know Podesta didn't get hacked, he gave them everything through a phishing email
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:04 pm to Lsujacket66
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:06 pm to Lsujacket66
There is no credible direct evidence for the conspiracy.
Everything hinges on the credibility of Wheeler's single anonymous source(ironic for Trumpkins). A source he began waffling on when the pressure mounted. Where he began giving contradictory statements to multiple outlets when interviewed. That multiple independent sources from multiple independent news organizations have cut holes in the core of Wheeler's source.
Namely that the FBI currently, or ever was in possession of Rich's laptop. Which would make it hard for this supposed Wheeler FBI source to have hands-on proof of the emails existence.
Lots of thing are possible, but it requires evidence to prove them. The Seth Rich conspiracy case is built on a house of cards of speculation, unsubstantiated assertions, and one anonymous source that seems less and less credible. That's vessel seems to be distancing himself from and has enormous credibility issues.
Everything hinges on the credibility of Wheeler's single anonymous source(ironic for Trumpkins). A source he began waffling on when the pressure mounted. Where he began giving contradictory statements to multiple outlets when interviewed. That multiple independent sources from multiple independent news organizations have cut holes in the core of Wheeler's source.
Namely that the FBI currently, or ever was in possession of Rich's laptop. Which would make it hard for this supposed Wheeler FBI source to have hands-on proof of the emails existence.
Lots of thing are possible, but it requires evidence to prove them. The Seth Rich conspiracy case is built on a house of cards of speculation, unsubstantiated assertions, and one anonymous source that seems less and less credible. That's vessel seems to be distancing himself from and has enormous credibility issues.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:09 pm to Lsujacket66
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:10 pm to bonhoeffer45
Sounds like Maxine could do work here if she was a Republican.
Oh well
Oh well
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:13 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Seth Rich.... for non conspiracy theorists
quote:There you go again.
There is no credible direct evidence for the conspiracy.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:13 pm to Lsujacket66
His name was Seth Rich
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:22 pm to Lsujacket66
We have killed people for less but seriously doubt it. I hate to tell everyone this but typically the conservatives kill more people. I seriously like Bush the greater, but you could fill a graveyard with people he had eliminated. 10 times more than Clinton
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:36 pm to TutHillTiger
Big Bush was the CIA director so he gets a pass.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:36 pm to bonhoeffer45
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There is no credible direct evidence for the conspiracy.
Everything hinges on the credibility of Wheeler's single anonymous source(ironic for Trumpkins). A source he began waffling on when the pressure mounted. Where he began giving contradictory statements to multiple outlets when interviewed. That multiple independent sources from multiple independent news organizations have cut holes in the core of Wheeler's source.
Namely that the FBI currently, or ever was in possession of Rich's laptop. Which would make it hard for this supposed Wheeler FBI source to have hands-on proof of the emails existence.
Lots of thing are possible, but it requires evidence to prove them. The Seth Rich conspiracy case is built on a house of cards of speculation, unsubstantiated assertions, and one anonymous source that seems less and less credible. That's vessel seems to be distancing himself from and has enormous credibility issues.
The best reason to think Rich was the source comes from Wikileaks imo. In an interview Asange described their informant and it basically exactly described Rich. And their twitter account has obviously put his name out there. Wikileaks/Asange have a damn good record of facts, so not sure why we shouldn't believe this?
And the argument that we shouldn't look into this for the family's sake, is bullshite considering this is a national security issue
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:52 pm to Lsujacket66
Assange hasn't provided any evidence to support his speculation.
And I never said it shouldn't be looked into.
There is an ongoing investigation. I support that wholeheartedly. I don't support or respect people running around parroting baseless speculation for political purposes.
And I never said it shouldn't be looked into.
There is an ongoing investigation. I support that wholeheartedly. I don't support or respect people running around parroting baseless speculation for political purposes.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:19 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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GeauxLSUGeaux
Well played
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:25 pm to Lsujacket66
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Wikileaks/Asange have a damn good record of facts, so not sure why we shouldn't believe this?
Assange and Wikileaks aren't actually disinterested here. People believing Rich was the leaker may help protect a source. Assange may also be floating Rich to try and build legitimacy (as compared to obtaining the information via hack). If the actual leaked was a geopolitical opponent of the Clintons they may want people to believe Rich was the leaker.
I don't know if any of that is true, but taking his word at face value is stupid.
Also if Rich was assassinated, it was the sloppiest hit ever with an amazing coverup afterwards.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 11:07 pm to Lsujacket66
But what about the conspiracy theorists on the other side?
How do we know that Seth Rich wasn't murdered by the Russians as a false flag to sow public dissent against Clinton? They then get Assange to drop vague hints that Rich was the source of the DNC leaks and presto, you've got a full blown internet shite storm of distraction.
Or Clinton killed him. Or some dumbass mugger. We may never know. Pretty perfect microcosm for the paradox that living in the age of information creates - the more access to info we have, the less we seem to know for certain.
Hopefully an investigation bring something tangible to light, one way or another, soon
How do we know that Seth Rich wasn't murdered by the Russians as a false flag to sow public dissent against Clinton? They then get Assange to drop vague hints that Rich was the source of the DNC leaks and presto, you've got a full blown internet shite storm of distraction.
Or Clinton killed him. Or some dumbass mugger. We may never know. Pretty perfect microcosm for the paradox that living in the age of information creates - the more access to info we have, the less we seem to know for certain.
Hopefully an investigation bring something tangible to light, one way or another, soon
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 11:19 pm to CorporateTiger
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The Seth Rich conspiracy case is built on a house of cards of speculation, unsubstantiated assertions, and one anonymous source that seems less and less credible.
The Russian (email hacking) conspiracy case is built on a house of cards of speculation, unsubstantiated assertions, and multiple anonymous sources that seem less and less credible. What is the difference?
Assange came out very quickly after Seth died. If he concocted a plot to make everyone believe Seth was a leaker just to protect another source, while not revealing Seth's name, then Assange is an insanely clever person.
In DC when someone is killed, they get robbed, else it was an intentional hit. Who would want to intentionally eliminate him? Who has something to gain by getting rid of him?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:45 am to TutHillTiger
He had one of my dads friends killed but the guy pushed his limits.
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