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re: Second Shooter Theory

Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:02 pm to
The camera grows more out of focus when the "second shooter" seems to appear.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:05 pm to
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I did not.


I speak English, not sophist. Thanks for your response.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475662 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Why do Libs feel the need to defend SS? It's very odd.

No libs ITT and nobody is defending the SS ITT

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People are discussing the supposed "failures" of the SS,

Not when discussing a "second shooter"

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I'm not smooth brained enough to think this was just incompetence.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:06 pm to
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I speak English, not sophist.

I stated it in plain English.

I speak truthful, not as a liar. Thanks for your response.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6653 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Jesus wasn't crucified because people liked him.


You're actually comparing yourself to Jesus, now? Exactly how twisted is your mind?

You really need some introspection.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128620 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:07 pm to
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I stated it in plain English.


Yes. Your original blame of local LEO was very plain. Your now subsequent equivocation is sophistry.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13268 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:08 pm to
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Where the 2nd shooter was on the water tower


The water tower never made sense to me because the injuries in the crowd would have been different. Surely some out in front of Trump would have been hurt. Weren't the injuries all in the stands behind him?

The window would be a possibility, but still not on board with second shooter theory.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475662 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:10 pm to
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You're actually comparing yourself to Jesus, now? Exactly how twisted is your mind?

You really need some introspection.




That was my avatar in the mid-00s for a bit
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77181 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:10 pm to
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If this had been Biden, Obama or even Hillary, who still has a job today?


anc had a thread about this yesterday .

Hussein's SS Dir resigned after a number of incidents in 2014.

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As we've reported, the Secret Service came under scrutiny after a man scaled a fence, then ran past guards into the White House, where he allegedly managed to run through most of the building's main level before being apprehended by an off-duty officer.

That happened on Sept. 19. Since then, The Washington Post has published a series of reports about how the Secret Service has fallen short. One report alleged that back in 2011, seven bullets struck the White House and Secret Service agents dismissed it as the backfire "from a nearby construction vehicle."

Later the Post reported that when President Obama visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in September, Secret Service agents allowed an armed contractor with a criminal record to ride an elevator with him.

Pierson, it's worth noting, took over the Secret Service after the agency found itself in the middle of a prostitution scandal in 2012. Amid that scandal, Mark Sullivan, the agency's director, announced his retirement in February 2013.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:11 pm to
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The window would be a possibility, but still not on board with second shooter theory.

The other window makes more sense than the water tower.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Eyewitness testimony is terrible, ESPECIALLY if a weapon is involved.
spoken like the worst lawyer in the world

People who are actually there on the scenes are the worst kind of witnesses

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SlowFlowPro
shill harder for us
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:13 pm to
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spoken like the worst lawyer in the world

Only bad lawyers don't understand how bad eyewitness testimony is

Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:13 pm to
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The other window makes more sense than the water tower.


Speaking of which - when are we going to get enough data to parse the Las Vegas shooting like this?

This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Only bad lawyers don't understand how bad eyewitness testimony is

Amazing how first hand eye witnesses are always called to the stand.

Youre nothing but a troll with an ego.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475662 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Amazing how first hand eye witnesses are always called to the stand.

Yes, and the system is built around assuming their reliability, which is why good lawyers understand the issues and plan accordingly.

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Youre nothing but a troll with an ego.

Shitting on eyewitness testimony is literally how I won my last jury trial

The problem is because the system is so (irrationally) built on a reliance on it, you can get in trouble bringing up the unreliability (up to mistrial and sanctions, IIRC). That's why you have to be smart about it.

There is even science behind it but they won't give it Daubert approval b/c the courts fear what would happen if you get to address the truth of the matter.

That's a fight for a different thread, though.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:24 pm to
2nd shooter is there the entire video bro
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
178646 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:44 pm to

Follow the arrow of where would be "shadows" would go towards.


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Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 4:24 pm to
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I love how "Misfit Patriot" is using the biggest piece of evidence that MAGA/AF conspiracy theorists are using to create their conspiracy, as obvious proof that it's a completely different conspiracy theory

When you leave reality, anything is possible.


"That's just right wing conspiracy theory...." - SFP with his usual fig bullshite.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 4:32 pm to
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Not a proponent of the theory, but why does this have to mean roof rat shot 1st?


I'm not saying it's true but it's not like there is completely nothing there with regard to the question if there was another shooter.

There were witnesses interviewed right after that said shots were coming from different directions. Multiple attendees said it. There were a couple interviews with attendee witnesses that mentioned the guy on the roof and a guy "on the water tower."

The man that was killed was supposedly shot at a weird angle that was difficult to understand/explain based on side of the head where he was hit and his position he was found in when he fell in on the ground versus the shooter's position on the roof and the direction he was shooting from. This was all openly talked about within minutes and hours of the incident.
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 4:43 pm
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