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Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:02 pm to rumproast
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Man, a second civil war would be difficult. Everybody has friends or loved ones on the other side of the political spectrum from ourselves. You really going to shoot your childhood friend or your co-worker for believing something you don't? (Of course, if he tries to burn down your house, then fire away...but I'd have to think such a person would opt not to burn down your house for the same reason you'd opt not to shoot him.) With the Civil War, there were geographical divisions. Today, people are inter-dispersed. Thus, I don't think such would ever happen. How the hell would the "teams" be decided?
While all of your points are true, you've actually described why it will be so bad. There won't be two "Teams". There will be multiple teams.
This is actually the case with most civil wars. The American civil war over slavery was an anomaly.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:04 pm to JawjaTigah
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what would a 2020 Trump win mean?
A stay
If you've convinced or planted a seed in the mind of a classical Democrat to consider voting for Trump, then you've only held off the wolves for a little bit longer. If we have the inclination or opportunity to talk to our friends, family or neighbors about the Marxist cultural shift happening before our eyes, try to impress on them, that this is all happening under the watch of Democrat mayors, city councilors, police jurors, govenors, state senators, reps, attorney generals, and district attorneys.
The Federal government is only so culpable in the allowance of this attack on our society. Our state and local officals, in most cases bear most the responsibility of allowing this to happen, Your school board rubber stamps lefitst ideologies without a second thought
So, if you think a "win" is a Trump reelection, that's only part the battle. The old adage of "well, I'll vote Republican for the president, but all Democrat for my local officials" is no longer a viable option. The left is out to crush America as we know it, they are not interested in even hearing what the other side wants. The conservatives and libertarians have to face that reality and do what we can to push back with every last vote, for single election, in every single town.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:05 pm to PinevilleTiger
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Whichever side the military chose would win without firing a shot. You can’t beat F-16’s and tanks with a 12 gauge.
Again, asymmetric insurgency does not work like this.
Afghanistan shithole cave dwellers fought our worlds-most-advanced military to an uneasy stalemate in a 2 decades old war that is still raging.
A guerilla insurrection on American soil would be horrifically brutal. 100x worse than afghanistan, Iraq, and vietnam combined.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:07 pm to jamboybarry
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Continue going to work and church. Raise my children right. Conceal carry.
Can't have a war if only one side shows up.
Can't even have a political contest when only one side shows up.
The Left is rolling over the Right as we speak, and outside of a talkshow host, 12 Italian assholes in Philly and an old lady in Brooklyn - the Right is AWOL.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:08 pm to ShortyRob
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While all of your points are true, you've actually described why it will be so bad. There won't be two "Teams". There will be multiple teams.
This is actually the case with most civil wars. The American civil war over slavery was an anomaly.
Exactly. I supect ours would resemble the Bosnian crisis. Literal Hell on Earth.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:10 pm to Kentucker
quote:Sorry, I think your memory is failing, or your interpretive faculties are in malfunction mode. The stuff in those days was bad, yes. But not at the near existential level of what’s unfolding today. There were some moderating voices heard back then. Now...where are they?
the culture war of the late 1960s, early 1970s would have made you head for your underground bunker. I shite you not. What we’re experiencng now is mild compared to that incredibly tumultous period of our nation’s history.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:12 pm to David_DJS
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The Left is rolling over the Right as we speak, and outside of a talkshow host, 12 Italian assholes in Philly and an old lady in Brooklyn - the Right is AWOL.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:16 pm to JawjaTigah
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the culture war of the late 1960s, early 1970s would have made you head for your underground bunker. I shite you not. What we’re experiencng now is mild compared to that incredibly tumultous period of our nation’s history.
Sorry, I think your memory is failing, or your interpretive faculties are in malfunction mode. The stuff in those days was bad, yes. But not at the near existential level of what’s unfolding today. There were some moderating voices heard back then. Now...where are they?
Y'all need to review some revisionist history I reckon. Cities were burning and not the little shite you see now. Movements were bombing shite. That damn war. President shot down. Civil rights activist shot down. The Presidents brother shot down. Garbage strikes. Teacher strikes. Add in the Middle East. The Cold War. and so so much more.
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Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:16 pm to PinevilleTiger
quote:escaped your notice? The military is AWOL in this whole situation. Huge pushback from Lefty brass and media and Dems when Trump threatened military intervention in the riots. The current silence tells me the military is not of one mind in this. Which suggests further purges of mid level Gens/Admirals is coming. The rank and file is divided.
Whichever side the military chose would win without firing a shot. You can’t beat F-16’s and tanks with a 12 gauge.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:21 pm to themunch
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Y'all need to review some revisionist history I reckon. Cities were burning and not the little shite you see now. Movements were bombing shite. That damn war. President shot down. Civil rights activist shot down. The Presidents brother shot down. Garbage strikes. Teacher strikes. Add in the Middle East. The Cold War. and so so much more.
I agree with you that it was tumultuous then as well.
I think he is saying more is coming down the pipe. And we can all agree that the breadth and depth of the marxist sentiment and movement is WAY more insidous and widespread now, compared to isolated terror cells like WeatherUnderground circa 1960s...
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:21 pm to themunch
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Y'all need to review some revisionist history I reckon. Cities were burning and not the little shite you see now. Movements were bombing shite. That damn war. President shot down. Civil rights activist shot down. The Presidents brother shot down. Garbage strikes. Teacher strikes. Add in the Middle East. The Cold War. and so so much more.
You're comparing the 60's (a decade) to the last 3 months.
You're not an alarmists if you take note of what's transpired in this country the last 3 months and think it ain't normal.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:24 pm to jamboybarry
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Continue going to work and church. Raise my children right. Conceal carry.
Don’t complain when your concealed carry and firearms rights are stolen if your plan is to sit back and act like nothing is happening.
Head in the sand has worked for years, but not now.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:26 pm to JawjaTigah
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The stuff in those days was bad, yes. But not at the near existential level of what’s unfolding today.
You obviously were‘t there. Your existential bullshite aside, the assinations of politicians and culture leaders combined with the burning of cities, clashes between the National Guard and college students (with real bullets, not bean bags) and the Vietnam War made for a terrifying experience for everyone. To say that today’s tumult is comparable to that time is horseshite.
Moderating voices? They were being taken out on the regular by rifles.
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Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:26 pm to Jpeazyy
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I’m starting to feel cornered like never before.
This is a common sentiment. I feel exactly the same way. They're leaving people two options: 1. Be ruled by a lawless system that hates you, or 2. Do something extreme about it.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:26 pm to David_DJS
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You're not an alarmists if you take note of what's transpired in this country the last 3 months and think it ain't normal.
Exactly. Like turning on a water spigot full blast: at first drip drip drip... and then BOOM
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:28 pm to Kentucker
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. To say that today’s tumult is comparable to that time is horseshite.
Stongly disagree
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:28 pm to Kentucker
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To say that today’s tumult is comparable to that time is horseshite
You're comparing a decade to the last 3 months.
Name the 3 month period in the 60's that saw what we've seen beginning with the BS COVID lockdown.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:29 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:BUT... in a second term there would be no limit on Trump going epic in biblical proportion to the enemies from whom he is saving the USA
Does anybody think for even a moment that the upcoming election will “show” the Left and set all things right? If Trump’s win in 2016 ignited a firestorm of resistance, what would a 2020 Trump win mean? They are never gonna play nice; they only want power and will settle for nothing less.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:29 pm to jimmarley
If it ends up happening, “civil” wouldn’t be a way to describe it.
It would likely resemble something like the Balkans wars of the 90s as the former Yugoslavia tore itself apart.
It would likely resemble something like the Balkans wars of the 90s as the former Yugoslavia tore itself apart.
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