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re: SCOTUS Roberts now has authority to appoint new Judges to SCOTUS under AG Garland rule.

Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:30 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:30 am to
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Well that's a bullshite comment.

Not at all.

If your argument is that the underlying system has no value, then any opinion associated with that system has no value. How else can you judge the opinion if you have no basis from which to judge the opinion?
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:31 am to
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Except the Chief Justice never has had the power to appoint anyone as an inferior justice.



The USSC has original jurisdiction over suits between two or more states , the CJ will appoint a special master to hear the case instead of the court sitting en banc to hear the case. Also while the CJ is not involved The Courts Of Appeal appoint all Bankruptcy Judges according to statute.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:32 am to
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If your argument is that the underlying system has no value, then any opinion associated with that system has no value.


This is stupid even for the new left wing race baiting irrational sfp.

I can respect the law and have no respect for the system that is charged with administering it.

Try and fail at a new line of (zero) reasoning.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:34 am to
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the CJ will appoint a special master to hear the case instead of the court sitting en banc to hear the case

Can you cite me the example of this happening?

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Also while the CJ is not involved

Then it's irrelevant
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:35 am to
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I can respect the law and have no respect for the system that is charged with administering it.

Then you're creating a moving target, which I predicted, and I cut it off before you could rely on the dishonest rhetoric.

Exactly why I asked this question and you chose not to quote it:

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How else can you judge the opinion if you have no basis from which to judge the opinion?


This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
163000 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:35 am to
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Of course this stupidity was written by Julie Kelly


Wrong. You know better than a criminal defense attorney that wrote the article? Please explain.
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This is a guest post by David W. Fischer, a Maryland and D.C.-based criminal defense attorney and the senior partner at Fischer & Putzi, P.A. Most recently, Fischer defended January 6 defendant Thomas Caldwell, who was acquitted on seditious and other conspiracy charges.
Instead, you took the lowly trolling role of what Weissmann and democrats do to Julie Kelly-criticize...Are you in line with that poser shipwreckedcrew, a fed who moled his way into defending J6 people and the defendant's said he did not help them?

What kind of a top dog fed attorney spends his time telling Julie Kelly, investigative reporter, how stupid she is? This is petty and plainly stupid.

Have you addressed that Jack Smith came from the ICC, AKA The Hague.

The ICC isn't even recognized by the USA because there is a huge sovereignty issue.

He was most likely a good fit at the Hague because the SCOTUS cited him for gross prosecutorial misconduct.
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Among his most notable corruption cases, Smith – who was tapped by Attorney General Merrick Garland – was overturned unanimously in the Supreme Court.

Smith prosecuted the former Republican governor of Virginia, Bob McDonnell. The U.S. Supreme Court later overturned the case in a unanimous 8-0 decision. The Court observed that “there is no doubt that this case is distasteful; it may be worse than that. But our concern is not with tawdry tales of Ferraris, Rolexes, and ball gowns. It is instead with the broader legal implications of the Government’s boundless interpretation of the federal bribery statute.”

The Supreme Court also rebuked Smith and warned that “the uncontrolled power of criminal prosecutors is a threat to our separation of powers.”

Smith also prosecuted Arizona Congressman Rick Renzi – a Republican – on corruption charges, which the Supreme Court upheld. Trump later pardoned Renzi. The Republican claimed he had been “wrongly convicted by a Department of Justice that engaged in witness tampering, illegal wiretapping, and gross prosecutorial misconduct.”

“He’s destroyed a lot of lives. Lives have been destroyed. He’s destroyed people—he’s destroyed lives,” Trump said of Smith. "He was Lois Lerner and the IRS case, which was one of the most egregious abuses what happened. The government had to apologize to people."

Trump condemned Smith for going after Christians and Republicans, calling him “deranged.” He said the special counsel had abused his power and that history would look upon this moment, saying it would be remembered as an “embarrassment” for the entire nation.



Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
869 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:41 am to
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Can you cite me the example of this happening?



Florida v Georgia 22o142
docket
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468043 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:42 am to
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Wrong. You know better than a criminal defense attorney that wrote the article? Please explain.

She's a grifter and her twitter is just one example of dishonesty after another.

She's the current queen of only posting snippets of rulings and not describing the full context, then planting a flag based on the curated snippet (which is often wrong in the larger context).

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Have you addressed that Jack Smith came from the ICC, AKA The Hague.

What does that have to do with a discussion about the legality of his appointment?

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He was most likely a good fit at the Hague because the SCOTUS cited him for gross prosecutorial misconduct.

Again, what does this have to do with his appointment?

I'm not exactly a Jack Smith fan, but I also understand that's wholly irrelevant to this thread and the incomprehensibly stupid "arguments" in the article in OP.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24154 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:46 am to
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Then you're creating a moving target,


No that's only in your head.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24154 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:47 am to
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How else can you judge the opinion if you have no basis from which to judge the opinion?


Irrational argument is impossible to track by definition of irrational.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:47 am to
edit, I just saw you posted above
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:50 am to
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Irrational argument is impossible to track by definition of irrational.

'

White flag post.

As I thought.

You can continue your defense of the idiocracyy. If me refusing to join in to support stupidity means you call me a "leftist", then whatever. It circles back to the same basic point you're intentionally avoiding above: an opinion without value (like one based in stupidity) retains that lack of value, regardless of the label used.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6514 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:52 am to
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Not at all.



No he's right.

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If your argument is that the underlying system has no value, then any opinion associated with that system has no value.


That is the opinion of that system. And he is right. They are letting criminals off while prosecuting people for political gain.

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24154 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:52 am to
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White flag post.


Your irrationality is only surpassed by your self aggrandizing delusion man.

It's like watching some kid with Down syndrome who thinks he's dominating the pickup basketball game the neighborhood kids were kind enough to let him join.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468043 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:53 am to
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Florida v Georgia 22o142
docket


Was that done via inherent Constitutional authority or via Rule 53?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468043 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:54 am to
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That is the opinion of that system.

No value, exactly.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6514 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:54 am to
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This is stupid even for the new left wing race baiting irrational sfp.


It really is. I don't see all of his posts, but the majority that I do see is him exposing himself and a left-wing person. He tries to sell the board that he is not, but he can not help but to revert back to it.

In this thread, he just slammed Judge Cannon while defending the leftist talking points.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:55 am to
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Your irrationality is only surpassed by your self aggrandizing delusion man.

You refused to answer a legitimate question honestly, and just throw out ad homs like "leftist" and "irrationality" without any basis.

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It's like watching some kid with Down syndrome who thinks he's dominating the pickup basketball game the neighborhood kids were kind enough to let him join.

And you triple down with the ad hom
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6514 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:55 am to
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quote:
I can respect the law and have no respect for the system that is charged with administering it.


Then you're creating a moving target, which I predicted, and I cut it off before you could rely on the dishonest rhetoric.


No little socialist. He can respect law and understand that the courts DO NOT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468043 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:56 am to
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I don't see all of his posts, but the majority that I do see is him exposing himself and a left-wing person

What have I said ITT that is "left wing"?

I haven't made any partisan statements and the cases I cited as precedent involved a Republican-appointed special counsel

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In this thread, he just slammed Judge Cannon

I did not. I cited history accurately.

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while defending the leftist talking points.

I'm making no partisan commentary and just citing case law.
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