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re: Science is debunking itself again

Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Science and scientific method is the tie-in each instance
So far the only criticism I've seen you make against the scientific method is that you don't like the word "concern"? Guess what? I don't care. Write a book about it if it's so important to you.

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tossed out multiple topics, 
you pick. I can't prioritize your "concerns" (lol) for you.

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FWIW, each is an example of "professional" "expert" scientists (as opposed to the armchair guys) acting stupidly. Each example is loaded with "professional" "experts" who are quite "concerned" about challenges to basically unsupportable hypotheses.

OK. Were you gonna justify any of that with evidence ? Just pick one thing please.


And as far as COVID-19, you're right, that's way too far outside of my field of study. Unlike you armchairs, I actually have a decent sense of what I do not understand.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 8:44 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6805 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:26 am to
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Doesn’t the Cambrian Explosion show all life came into existence basically as the kind they are today? Reptiles, Amphibians, fish, mammals, birds?



lmfao, no



Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:20 pm to
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The climate science and vaccine industry does not approach science like this. Climate science and the vaccine industry approach science by developing a model and mold data to fit model and declare, IT'S SCIENCE!



That's not actually true. The predictive ability of climate models is well documented. You just haven't bothered to read any scientific literature on the subject.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:25 pm to
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Scientists do not have the capability to see back all the way to the big bang and their models can't go back all the way to the start either.


I mean, not all the way. 1 second after the Big Bang ain't bad though. I'd like see see some creationist determine the abundances of every light element in the Universe except Lithium based on a one parameter model.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:29 pm to
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There are very few chefs in science, only cooks following recipes. They don't come to these conclusions, they just repeat them, so why should their numbers be counted to add weight to certain views?


Kinda sounds like you're saying experiments aren't worth repeating, and perhaps a little oblivious to the fact it's every cosmologists dream to explain the things the current theory does not.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:46 pm to
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The Big Bang hypothesis was developed when science actually worked



I hate to break it to you but the current model of the big bang did not become the most accepted model until the late 90's.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:49 pm to
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I hate to break it to you but the current model of the big bang did not become the most accepted model until the late 90's.
... and ????
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:50 pm to
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Maybe some scientist still refer to it as a theory, but general pop are force fed that is what happened, do not question the science.


I'm not seeing what your beef is. Lambda CDM doesn't explain every observation but the general pop isn't too worried about Lithium abundances.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:52 pm to
The was a quarter century ago.
And eons ago in terms of scientific funding and 2° attitudes.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:52 pm to
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When the scientist has an explanation for infinite existence of inanimate matter, he'll have a point.

We really don't know if the universe is infinite in extent. Theory says, probably so, but then we're kinda getting into metaphysics because how would we ever know for sure ? Anything outside our light cone can't be observed.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:54 pm to
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The was a quarter century ago.


Ok. Well there was pretty much a consensus on AGW then, so you kinda contradicted yourself. But whatever
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:56 pm to
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Anything outside our light cone can't be observed.
Yet we acknowledge its existence. Hence it's ""magic"" one way, or it's ""magic"" another.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:02 pm to
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so you kinda contradicted
The period you cited was a contradiction. It was a transition from good to bad science. There is no way in hell the BatSoup CV19 crap would have passed in 1999.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:07 pm to
You will like this if you want to know more about general relativity. Its very well put together. It's perfectly suited to people who know math on the level of an engineer/doctor/most of the rest of science but have never had the need for tensor calculus in four dimensions. Don't let the title fool you its way past dummy level.

LINK

This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19232 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:09 pm to
Peebles, you are confusing dark matter with dark energy. They are not the same thing and there is no Einsteinean equivalence between them.

Dark matter describes why galaxies do not behave as they should based on the matter we can see. Therefore, there must be dark matter influencing the rotation. Some have speculated that GR may break down, but most physicists don't buy it. They are convinced GR is correct and there really is invisible matter.

Dark energy is postulated to explain why the universe as a whole is expanding. It has nothing to do with dark matter. The accelerating universe was discovered by two separate teams in 1998 and both teams shared the Nobel.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3358 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:45 pm to
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Have the biblical flat earthers come in yet?


Yes, you have to read the previous 33 pages of bickering to get to the “evolution is just a theory” nonsense.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:18 pm to
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AUstar
Peebles, you are confusing dark matter with dark energy. They are not the same thing and there is no Einsteinean equivalence between them.


Where? I certainly didn't mean to mix up the two

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Dark energy is postulated to explain why the universe as a whole is expanding. It has nothing to do with dark matter. The accelerating universe was discovered by two separate teams in 1998 and both teams shared the Nobel.

Dark matter is the second biggest contributor to all the matter energy in the universe behind dark energy and the evolution of the structures formed by dark matter are most certainly influenced by the presence of dark energy so I don't see how you can say the two have nothing to do with each other. It's kinda like saying protons have nothing to do with electrons.
This post was edited on 9/30/23 at 8:57 am
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:59 pm to
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evolution…eventually get their debunking


Tell me you’re a moron without telling me you’re a moron.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 4:49 am to
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Until the next mass extinction? Perhaps of our own doing.


Perhaps? Seems pretty certain at this point with folks like you sticking your heads in the sand. The Great Filter is YOU!
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 8:50 am to
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Perhaps of our own doing.

Perhaps?
Yes, perhaps.

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folks like you sticking your heads in the sand
Some words seem to stump you, so I'll just ask: Are you familiar with the term "projection"?
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