re: Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God--WSJ--Eric Metaxas

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Atheists: The science is in . . . No more, it's 'just a theory'.

Christians: It's just bullshite.

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No more, "it's just a theory."

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It's possible that the universe is a type of hologram.

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You're right. That's not a theory; it's just bullshite.

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String theory is far from complete, but it's also far from "bullshite".

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I'd like a head count of how many became atheists after going to college.

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I often say I "became" atheist after choosing to read the Bible front to back but in hindsight, that's just not true.

I was reading the Bible precisely because I'd already become atheist. At the time, I thought my reason was because I was thinking, "hey, I go to church and say I'm Christian but I don't even really know the Bible......ought to read the thing".

The reality though was I didn't REALLY believe. I went through the motions well, but I never ever really had that thought inside that said, "I know he's out there listening to me". I guess at the time, I thought the Bible would convince me.

It did precisely the opposite. It made me literally laugh out loud.

Hence, I have never really "believed" and as such, I'm an atheist.

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String theory isn't even science in a classical definition. It is about as scientific as creationism

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Well okay. There it is, y'all!
Maybe the cosmological constant is just a rounding error as well?

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I wouldn't go as far as to say it's comparable to creationism though.

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May be a bit of hyperbole, but what people hold up as "truth" or realistic "theory" is absurd. The idea of God is ludicrous to the same people that will swallow whole any bullshite spewed from a scientist's mouth.

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String theory is terrible science

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. . . so the likes of Stephen Hawking must be absolutely "terrible" at science.

Well thank Goodness we have Al Gore, Bill Nye, Neil Tyson, etc to keep us straight!

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. so the likes of Stephen Hawking must be absolutely "terrible" at science.

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Appeals to authority, especially in science, reveals your ignorance.

If you had even the basic knowledge of the scientific method in addition to a rudimentary understanding of string theory, it would be quite obvious to you that string theory is terrible science.

Just one thing, fwiw. From a rock, to amino-acids and up...there is a consistent manifestation of all manner of conscious (reactive) forms of life. And they all react to outside stimuli...and over time, record those reactions and pass them on in the form of DNA progression. DNA being a vehicle for the reservoir and transmission of acquired Knowledge...on to the next generation of conscious entities.

What we do know, is that time is relative; in theoretical factuality...it is highly likely that from everything that has occurred...to everything that can...is already...*there*. It's done. Only that we are unable to access/verify it's existence.

So the bottom line is this...limited consciousness (simple and conscious life forms) acquire Knowledge (which is Power), transmit such to it's heirs, and a this process is infinite in duration. So what we end up with is an (infinitely transitional) form of Conscious Life Being...that is infinitely knowledgeable and powerful. So much so that the concepts of time, mass, energy and space become relatively moot issues (from the perspective of that *Being*. Now you can poh poh that theory...but for only one reason; and that reason can not be that it is unfounded on the (previously) occurring record. It could only be logically discounted in that the projected progression (Evolution)...would be interrupted. But given the (infinite) odds...even that nullification won't fly.

The chances are that what we now, witness...tells us what we will. Evolution...infinitely so...on to a form of being which is infinitely Knowledgeable and Powerful and totally aware of Itself. According to Knowledge/Universal Law (The Word, in Biblespeak). And guess what/who that Being would be? It damn sure ain't a man with long gray hair pulling the chains of an infinite number of infinitely varied and relatively complex conscious live forms throwing mud on the wall and moving up the ladder. Gee whiz!

"The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a mustard seed...starts off as the smallest...and grows into the largest tree that all manner of fowl (life forms) lodge in" (Biblical paraphrase). Just another one of those irrational and coincidental metaphors...from the 'graybeard on high'.

Gotta paint. Have fun!

You're not very bright are you?

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Appeals to authority, especially in science, reveals your ignorance.

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It's not an appeal to authority when you're quoting a proven expert in a field.

Quoting Hawking on a matter of astrophysics isn't an appeal to authority. Quoting Hawking in a different area because he's smart would be--ie, accepting his wisdom on a matter of theology.

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It's not an appeal to authority when you're quoting a proven expert in a field

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There are plenty of physicists who criticize string theory for the same reasons I do. I freely acknowledge that it's just my opinion, but it's not a radical one.