re: Saving Private Ryan is the best advertisement against war

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But I'm actually glad I watched it when I did last Saturday with the anti-war stance I have now and the fact that we are still in Afghanistan 20+ years and counting.

The film had a bigger impact that was more deeper than it would have been if I watched it like say the start of the 2010s.

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Check out Eugene Sledge's "With the Old Breed". The Pacific was based off it as well.

I read the book and realized while being a total Patriot to America, we don't want nor need these meatgrinders. Except, as you mentioned earlier, as a LAST RESORT.

That book gives great detail into the horror of combat and the complete abandonment of human decency and morality.

We cannot judge those guys for what they did or what they had to do to not only survive but to win. Same goes for our troops today in those shiteholes around the world our MIC and Establishment D's and R's want to send them.

Imagine mortar shells exploding all around you. Your buddy you were just having a much needed smoke break with is suddenly torn apart by shrapnel. You have to dig in to get cover and survive. However, you are digging though decomposed corpses of Japanese soldiers buried in the sand. You have to keep digging lest you are going to be blown apart. That is the intensity in the books battle scenes.

My heart goes out to ALL veterans.

For me it’s Platoon. Most depressing war movie ever.

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At the 2 Presidential debates last year, the debate moderators made sure that foreign policy was never discussed. Can't remember a single question about the mideast, China, Korean peninsula, Europe, NATO and Latin America.

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Yep. I remember commenting on this specifically to some friends. We were all laughing when the debate topics came out.

WW1 yes, but WW2 we did fight for our freedom. Japan would have attacked Alaska and Hawaii with ground troops. If they were able to establish air bases, the west coast cities would have been bombed. Not to mention if Britain and the rest of Europe fell to the Germans, you could have had a Vichy style government in Canada.

Vietnam is the war that affected us the most. Gave birth to the radical left movement that took over the once decent Democrat party.

Two of my uncle's fought in the Pacific during the WWII campaigns. One with the 1st Marine Division, the other with the 5th Marines. They would share their stories of horror with each other, not around strangers, and I often overheard the personal thoughts each still haunted them 20 years later. They are the one's who inspired me to enlist in the Marine Corps only to find that I was soon indoctrinated into my own nightmare know as Vietnam.

Believe me when I say...war is not glamorous and people you care about die. Hollywood has a history of doing this that is not reality. That being said, Saving Private Ryan is the most realistic and factual movie that has ever been produced in my opinion.

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But for the first time the mainstream media backed the war protesters and radicals

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The media and Hollywood have been operated by these same radicals for over a century though. They relentlessly pushed for our involvement in both World Wars as hard as they demoralized people during the Vietnam war.

I understand what you are driving at, but I tend believe it was way worse than most people realize way before Vietnam. A single example being the absolute infiltration of the FDR state department by Communist agents. Either way, the important thing is that we recognize the destruction caused by the war itself.

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My father in law landed on Omaha Beach with the 2nd Rangers and climbed Point du Hoc. He never talked about it until right before he died. He told us an amazing story about his training, riding on the ship before D Day, his ride in on the landing craft, eventual landing, and then climbing Point du Hoc. He was one of the few in his boat that survived. He was an amazing man.

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My grandfather was captured by the Germans in N Africa March 1943. Dad got drafted for Viet Nam 1967 but got out due to a messed up wrist he’d broken earlier in youth. Dad said it was the only time he saw pawpaw cry knowing dad wouldn’t have to go through that shite.

As far as war movies, I don’t care for them any more esp the movies about Nam and the more recent wars.

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May God and Jesus Christ bless those boys that died fighting for the land they love and the freedom of their families.

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They were heros but Americans weren't fighting for that, they were securing the world for International Bolshevism and affirmed the death sentence of a hundred million souls in China and the USSR and satellite nations. We shouldn't have been involved.