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Saudis to join BRICS? Petrodollar doomed?

Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:09 pm
Massive Implications, Saudi Arabia in Discussion to Join BRICS Coalition – The Outcome Would be Global Energy and Economic Cleaving

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It is very curious timing in this article from Newsweek, containing massive geopolitical implications, using identified Saudi Arabia sources, would come in advance of Joe Biden’s visit to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Is this strategic geopolitical pressure from Saudi leader Mohamed Bin Salman (MbS) ahead of the meeting with Biden; or is this a genuine possibility that looms as likely? If the former, then Joe Biden is being geopolitically slow roasted by Saudi Arabia for his previous disparagements and ideological hypocrisy in his visit. If it is the latter, well, then the tectonic plates of international trade, banking and economics are about to shift directly under our American feet.

We have been closely monitoring the signs of a global cleaving around the energy sector taking place. Essentially, western governments’ following the “Build Back Better” climate change agenda which stops using coal, oil and gas to power their economic engine, while the rest of the growing economic world continues using the more efficient and traditional forms of energy to power their economies.

This article from Newsweek is exactly about this dynamic with Saudi Arabia now potentially joining the BRICS team.


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Here is the money quote:
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[…] “China’s invitation to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to join the ‘BRICS’ confirms that the Kingdom has a major role in building the new world and became an important and essential player in global trade and economics,” Mohammed al-Hamed, president of the Saudi Elite group in Riyadh, told Newsweek. “Saudi Arabia’s Vision 2030 is moving forward at a confident and global pace in all fields and sectors.”

[…] “This accession, if Saudi joins it, will balance the world economic system, especially since the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the largest exporter of oil in the world, and it’s in the G20,” Hamed said. “If it happens, this will support any economic movement and development in the world trade and economy, and record remarkable progress in social and economic aspects as Saudi Arabia should have partnerships with every country in the world.” (read more)




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That would essentially be the end of the petrodollar, and -in even more consequential terms- the end of the United States ability to use the weight of the international trade currency to manipulate foreign government. The global economic system would have an alternative. The fracturing of the world, created as an outcome of energy development, would be guaranteed.



Keep in mind, in early June Federal reserve Chairman Jerome Powell stated, “rapid changes are taking place in the global monetary system that may affect the international role of the dollar.”


Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53303 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:10 pm to
I'd bet we would go to war with the Saudis over that.
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5183 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:11 pm to
Yep. WW3 time if that happens.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:14 pm to
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I'd bet we would go to war with the Saudis over that.


Don’t have to. If we pull troops out on short to no notice the current kingdom will be overthrown in a matter of weeks to months.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49206 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:14 pm to
Where are the idiots that claim BRICS doesn't matter?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98744 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:15 pm to
None of this...

AND I MEAN NONE OF THIS

Would be happening with Trump in the White House.

Goddamn I hate these motherfrickers.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10370 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49206 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:20 pm to
I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

The G7 are banging the drum, and have been rapidly ramping things up of late in an attempt to prevent a reversal with future leadership, for removal of oil and gas from their economies.

SA without oil is a desert with little else economically as oil is 77% of its exports.

Why in the hell would they support any of the G7 countries and why should they remain on the dollar when the US is currently hell bent on destroying their economy?
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
958 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:20 pm to
Historically, we have had a mutually beneficial relation with the Saudis. We protect them from external (we are currently spearheading their conflict with Iran) and internal threats, and they give us cheap oil.

Their military is heavily reliant on our equipment and support, and it will take them some time to be weaned off it.


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46056 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:21 pm to
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I'd bet we would go to war with the Saudis over that.


Its infuriating and sickening when a street level idiot like myself saw this China shite coming +20 years ago. There’s only two explanations for such blatant undermining of America’s global dominance.

1) It was out of pure idiocy laced with greed by the Corporatocracy who sold the American people out to the CCP

Or

2) It was all an elaborate plan by China, Russia and other enemies of the US to infiltrate every critical institution in the United States and destroy us from within.

Or

3) maybe a combination of 1 and 2?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:22 pm to
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'd bet we would go to war with the Saudis over that.



Support. 9/11 and all that.

They arent gonna frick up their new golf tour, they need USD.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49206 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:23 pm to
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Their military is heavily reliant on our equipment and support, and it will take them some time to be weaned off it.



The Chinese will be happy to make replacement parts for SA's military hardware.

Hell, Iran still has F14s flying.

eta-And the majority of Ukraine's hardware is Soviet. Still seems to work.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:23 pm to
The globalists are doing far more damage than China or Russia could dream of doing
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49206 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:24 pm to
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3) maybe a combination of 1 and 2?


This.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:26 pm to
That retard will be happy with this. He thinks it will be an accomplishment.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8374 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:28 pm to
The end of the Petrodollar? Yikes! There ya go Biden Boys and Girls. Your pal Plugs is about to put the final nail in the coffin on America's global economic superiority. Your sorry asses will be digging through dumpsters looking for something to eat shortly. Let me see if you blame Donald Trump for that?

Build Back Better will quickly become Better Build Back what's left of the fossil fuel O&G Industry in America.

FJB
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12066 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:29 pm to
Just in time for everyone to be begging to sign up for the new world digital currency
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23483 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:35 pm to
Basically MBS wants to humiliate Brandon. Kneel or else
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17705 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:45 pm to
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You can debate the motives of the western leaders who structured the sanctions against Russia, and whether they knew the outcome would happen as a consequence of their effort, but the outcome was never really in doubt. Personally, I believe this outcome is what the west intended. The people inside the World Economic Forum are not stupid – ideological, yes, but not stupid. They knew this global cleaving would happen.




Even the most ideologically committed globalist knows that the current trajectory is simply unsustainable. At some point gravity takes over and it is not going to be a soft landing for any of us.

The regretful era of this nation living beyond our means vis-à-vis debt financing is coming to a close. The question is, what comes next?

It is going to go one of two ways: will it be a continued slide into tyranny or a return to the ideals upon which this nation was founded? This nation’s massive command and control government now stands in complete opposition to the governing principles in which this nation was conceived.

Our nation was indeed founded upon the right to address irreconcilable differences through political separatism — on that matter there is no debate. Just to have secession as a legitimate bargaining tool alone would be a tremendous transfer of power to the individual states.

“Whether we remain in one confederacy, or form into Atlantic and Mississippi confederacies, believe not very important to the happiness of either part. Those of the western confederacy will be as much our children & descendants as those of the eastern.... I now foresee a separation at some future day, yet should feel the duty & the desire to promote the western interests as zealously as the eastern, doing all the good for both portions of our future family...” Thomas Jefferson, January 29, 1804 letter to Dr. Joseph Priestly.





This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:47 pm to
I've read for months - outside of co-opted US media - to expect USD hegemony to disappear. The hypothesis has been that there will be multiple regional currencies thus ending the USD/petrodollar strength. It's happening right in front of our eyes, and the US government in their wisdom has sown these seeds since 1971 by "financializing" our economy. There's a paper tiger alright, but it isn't who most think it is. The USD is going to lose 70% of its purchasing power. It might take five years, it might take twenty-five. Prepare yourselves.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 4:55 am
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