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re: Satanists seek spot next to Ten Commandments monument on steps of OK's Statehous
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:00 pm to TK421
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:00 pm to TK421
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No, you didn't. You exposed your lack of knowledge repeatedly, however.
yes I did. I can bring them back up if you would like. Shouldn't be hard to go find them. I gave you verses, with the original Greek language words explained aside them, that said that hell, as mentioned in the bible, is meant to be an eternal place. If you want to deny this, I will be happy to repost. You have NO arguments. Your arguments are insults about me not having a job, or being pathetic, or lacking intellect, just random insults and claims with nothing to back them up. I will post multiple bible verses on a subject, and you will simply post, "you know nothing about the bible" hahah it is hilarious that you think you are "winning" with these types of arguments. They are hollow insults and great claims with no evidence to back them up ever, nothing more.
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:02 pm to BBONDS25
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BBONDS25
Do you believe in hell?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:06 pm to sabes que
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Do you believe in hell?
yes. But what is the relevance? That has nothing to do with your silly assertion.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:07 pm to CJM18
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Yes it is. But we're getting further and further away all the time.
No one is forced to believe or practice Christianity, but it is the belief that this country was founded on.
I think it's important to distinguish between "it is the belief that this country was founded on" and "it was the belief of a vast majority of the colonists and the Framers." Christian people can create an organization, a business, or even a national government that is not explicitly based upon Christianity.
I'm not going to dispute with anyone that most of the Framers were Christians (with a few notable exceptions), and that the culture of the early U.S. was deeply influenced by Christianity, but does that mean that Christianity has permanent "first among equals" position in the United States for the rest of eternity? Shouldn't the changing realities in our nation be reflected in the government's treatment of religion?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:08 pm to sabes que
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yes I did.
It doesn't matter how many times you say this. You proved absolutely nothing other than your ignorance of the Bible.
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. Your arguments are insults about me not having a job, or being pathetic, or lacking intellect
These are not meant as insults, merely statements of fact. Everything you have posted on this board has been nonsense.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:12 pm to TK421
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These are not meant as insults
saying "you're pathetic" and telling me that I "probably don't have a job" are not insults?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:12 pm to TK421
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yes I did.
"Matt. 25:46 Jesus said, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." "The same Greek word (aionion) is used to describe both punishment and life. If eternal (aionion) life is indeed eternal (aionion), then eternal (aionion) punishment is also eternal (aionion)." =Matt Slick"
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:14 pm to BBONDS25
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Do you believe in hell?
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yes. But what is the relevance?
I am just trying to kind of get a head count here. I thought that it was accepted Christian doctrine. However, TK421 has debated me relentlessly on this in other threads. He demands that the bible makes no claim that hell is eternal.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:17 pm to sabes que
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So we agree. Well take this up with your fellow Christian TK41.
Just don't let the actions of men who claim to be Christian have too much influence on your search for truth when what they're saying or doing does not reflect a heart that's truly been changed by Christ.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:18 pm to sabes que
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I am just trying to kind of get a head count here. I thought that it was accepted Christian doctrine. However, TK421 has debated me relentlessly on this in other threads. He demands that the bible makes no claim that hell is eternal.
OK. If that is an important battle for you to have. Seems strange to me you have such an interest in the differing beliefs of group of people you are so adamantly opposed to. Like you are constantly searching for a "gotcha"....like the silly assertion of tacit approval of things not specifically condemned. I'm no shrink....but there has to be a name for this.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:18 pm to CJM18
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Just don't let the actions of men who claim to be Christian have too much influence on your search for truth when what they're saying or doing does not reflect a heart that's truly been changed by Christ.
"No true Scotsman..."
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:20 pm to BBONDS25
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Seems strange to me you have such an interest in the differing beliefs of group of people you are so adamantly opposed to. Like you are constantly searching for a "gotcha"....like the silly assertion of tacit approval of things not specifically condemned.
Yep. The word you're looking for is: "pathetic."
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:22 pm to TK421
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Yep. The word you're looking for is: "pathetic."
another great argument!
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:26 pm to TK421
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TK421
I think that it is "pathetic" that you will not respond to this.
"Matt. 25:46 Jesus said, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." "The same Greek word (aionion) is used to describe both punishment and life. If eternal (aionion) life is indeed eternal (aionion), then eternal (aionion) punishment is also eternal (aionion)." =Matt Slick"
What is your explanation for this? Is it more symbolism? Was Jesus just "kidding around" when he said this? or what's the deal here? And please just answer the question. I can see your reply from a mile away. "you do not understand the bible, you don't have a job, you are pathetic" It almost is getting comical to watch you shy away from defending your "indefensible" beliefs by shrinking to name calling in place of counter arguments.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:27 pm to sabes que
Seems strange to me you have such an interest in the differing beliefs of group of people you are so adamantly opposed to. Like you are constantly searching for a "gotcha"....like the silly assertion of tacit approval of things not specifically condemned.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:31 pm to DCRebel
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"No true Scotsman..."
One of the great, if not the greatest problems with organized religion. Who is to say who the "true" followers are? Is the Jihadist the true Muslim? Or the peaceful guy that works at the circle K? Is is the "true" believer the Christian or the Muslim? If it is the Christian, is it the catholic or the protestant? If it is the protestant, is it the baptist or the anglicans? I mean goodness gracious here, we could play this game all day. Bottom line is, none of us fricking know. Deal with it.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:31 pm to sabes que
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I think that it is "pathetic" that you will not respond to this.
I've responded to your baseless assertions concerning the Bible ad nauseum. The meaning word in the one scripture out of over 31K is not enough to sway opinion one way or the other. However, as I have pointed out, there is no Greek word that accurately translates to eternal whether talking about life or death. Thus, your argument is invalid.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:33 pm to BBONDS25
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Seems strange to me you have such an interest in the differing beliefs of group of people you are so adamantly opposed to. Like you are constantly searching for a "gotcha"....like the silly assertion of tacit approval of things not specifically condemned.
Thought that this was so good that you decided to post it twice with slightly different wording? That seems strange to me.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:34 pm to TK421
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However, as I have pointed out, there is no Greek word that accurately translates to eternal whether talking about life or death.
So would that mean that heaven also isn't necessarily eternal?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:34 pm to sabes que
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Thought that this was so good that you decided to post it twice with slightly different wording?
I copy and pasted it. I was just pointing out your failure to address the statement....which you still fail to address. The "pathetic" assertion seems to be a valid one.
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