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re: Sandy Hook Commission Draft: Homeschoolers are evil
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:06 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:06 pm to buckeye_vol
Can someone explain to me the link between the practice of home schooling and being a nutcase who shoots up a school?
Is there any correlation with home schooling and school shootings to justify intrusion into this setup?
Home schoolers out here have a lot of elaborate resources, group instruction, team meets....there is a whole network of parents in my area. They don't appear to be getting short changed on anything.
Is there any correlation with home schooling and school shootings to justify intrusion into this setup?
Home schoolers out here have a lot of elaborate resources, group instruction, team meets....there is a whole network of parents in my area. They don't appear to be getting short changed on anything.
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:11 pm to member12
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Can someone explain to me the link between the practice of home schooling and being a nutcase who shoots up a school?
The report's connection is just absurd.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:14 pm to buckeye_vol
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The connection is just absurd
It is. I don't see the connection between homeschooling and being an absolute head case.
There is no statistical analysis to draw a correlation between the two in the link....just run of the mill psychobabble theory. If there is anything there to support this that I've missed, someone please point it out.
It's as if the report is only designed to create skepticism and fear of home schooled kids and their parents....both of which should be very offended with this.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:19 pm to member12
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There is no statistical analysis to draw a correlation between the two in the link....just run of the mill psychobabble theory. If there is anything there to support this that I've missed, someone please point it out.
The best I can think of is that if the parents are crazy then more time with the parents will be bad. But that isn't specific to schooling which only represent 22% of a child's waking hours.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:28 pm to buckeye_vol
All three of those are concerns that are legitimate only if we are talking about public schools. You have vested interest in that equation.
Where does your concern gain any legitimacy when referring to someone else's home schooled kids?
What you don't realize is that your position hypothetically, is the full on position of some in the education sector. They think they know what's best for your kids, better than you do. Although the last fifty years shows our public educators are woeful.
And not to be a dick but who the frick are you to tell someone else, hey I have concerns about how you educate your own child?
Don't you see the inherent infringement on individual rights those thoughts engender?
Where does your concern gain any legitimacy when referring to someone else's home schooled kids?
What you don't realize is that your position hypothetically, is the full on position of some in the education sector. They think they know what's best for your kids, better than you do. Although the last fifty years shows our public educators are woeful.
And not to be a dick but who the frick are you to tell someone else, hey I have concerns about how you educate your own child?
Don't you see the inherent infringement on individual rights those thoughts engender?
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:42 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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And not to be a dick but who the frick are you to tell someone else, hey I have concerns about how you educate your own child?
Don't you see the inherent infringement on individual rights those thoughts engender?
Good luck with the passive aggressive "who me" busybody.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:42 pm to TN Bhoy
heard that on No Agenda podcast the other day. we live in an upside-down world, to be sure.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:45 pm to member12
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Can someone explain to me the link between the practice of home schooling and being a nutcase who shoots up a school?
i'll have to reexamine, but if this is the same thing i heard on no agenda, it was more about nanny state and the opportunity to "see something, say something" being diminished when children aren't assimilated, than it was a connection between homeschooling and mental illness.
either way, absurd and I would do many things to fight this if it were in my jurisdiction and i had kids.
eta: wow. i just read the article, and this may be slightly different from what i'm recalling. or maybe just a different focus. one second. searching shownotes.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:48 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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And not to be a dick but who the frick are you to tell someone else, hey I have concerns about how you educate your own child? Don't you see the inherent infringement on individual rights those thoughts engender?
I know I am biased. I've had great experiences in public schools at the k-12 and post-secondary level. I also admit that these concerns are not exclusive to home-schools; I just think they are more likely. Furthermore, not once did I advocate for control over your choice; I sure don't want it anyways. I responded to KCT's hyperbolic statement that insinuates that criticism of home-schooling is due to race and religion; it diminishes any substantive discussions.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:51 pm to buckeye_vol
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I just think they are more likely.
based on?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:54 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Good luck with the passive aggressive "who me" busybody.
Talk about self-centered. This discussion isn't about you. I don't know you or anything about you. I hope your kids well regardless of what school they go to. Just stop making baseless and irrational assumptions all because I said legitimate concerns. I am a buckeye fan and have legitimate concern about our pass defense, but I'm not advocating for my control or firing of all coaches. It doesn't mean concerns aren't warranted. In fact, I am the belief that nothing should be without concern and skepticism so we can work to find the best answer to whatever we do.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:56 pm to McLemore
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based on?
Generally the lack of training in instructional techniques. Again some will be excellent but the variability will be much greater in environment without those standards.
I think this report's assumptions are absurd though.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:57 pm to TN Bhoy
These people are idiots..more people are killed each year by thugs from the ghetto who have never met their father. Can we get closer scrutiny of those people from cradle to grave?
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:58 pm to buckeye_vol
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Generally the lack of training in instructional techniques.
are we talking about mental illness or scholasticism? i can shoot both down (pardon the expression), but I'd like to know what I'm shooting down first.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:59 pm to buckeye_vol
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I think this report's assumptions are absurd though.
fair enough. we've had enough homeschooling debates on here for one lifetime.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:00 pm to McLemore
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are we talking about mental illness or scholasticism? i can shoot both down (pardon the expression), but I'd like to know what I'm shooting down first.
I'm talking about the concerns with home-schooling that was started in response to KCT's post.
They have nothing to do with the absurdity in the report.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:03 pm to McLemore
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fair enough. we've had enough homeschooling debates on here for one lifetime.
Agreed. It got way off-topic when I got accused of wanting to control individuals' decisions based on my comment that I had concerns (from uncle fester). So I felt the need to state what my concerns were, but also stated that they aren't exclusive to any one system of education.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:04 pm to TN Bhoy
What's the plan for all public schooled chirren that commit violent crimes?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:04 pm to TN Bhoy
Yes because Sandy Hook did such a good job of protecting their previous students!
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:19 pm to buckeye_vol
If only they could have had this system in place to track home schoolers hears ago columbine could have been avoided.
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